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Have you got the globes? No, I always walk this way!

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Wnderer   7/31/2012 7:35:22 PM
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There is only one continent. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Map-of-human-migrations.jpg

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Wnderer   7/31/2012 7:49:52 PM
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Oops. No Antarctica. This link is better. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Dymaxion_2003_animation_small1.gif

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Max The Magnificent   7/31/2012 7:52:35 PM
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I like this animation, but your first link was better

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Max The Magnificent   7/31/2012 7:52:14 PM
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I LOVE this map!!!

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David Ashton   7/31/2012 9:54:18 PM
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Your bit about reducing the number of continents reminds me of a bumper sticker I once saw: REUNITE GONDWANALAND!!

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Max The Magnificent   8/1/2012 2:01:43 PM
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That's the first thing I say when I wake up in the morning :-)

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squarewheels   8/7/2012 3:35:49 PM
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I have a t-shirt with that slogan on it.

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Max The Magnificent   8/7/2012 4:06:34 PM
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Does it help you to meet young ladies?

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Paul A. Clayton   8/1/2012 1:14:36 AM
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It sounds like you want a spherical display. Such could allow animations presenting historical (or geological) information. With (color) electronic ink such a display would not need to be powered when not changing. Of course, such a display would be extremely expensive (not just from the display area but I suspect significant R&D would be needed to develop a curved display and other desirable features). (Using a wireless data connection and perhaps induced current for power might allow one to avoid plugs.) It looks like your globe is recent enough to include Macedonia but not so recent as to include South Sudan. Perhaps a new globe would be a better gift, though political maps change all too rapidly.

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Max The Magnificent   8/1/2012 2:02:30 PM
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I REALLY like that idea of creating a globe using electronic paper ... hmmmmm

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Paul A. Clayton   8/2/2012 1:44:39 PM
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Unfortunately, the cost per unit--especially at low volume since even the manufacturing probably would have high NRE--of an electronic paper version would be extremely high. Support for color and fast refresh is also still somewhat new (so expensive). (And a high price would constrain sales volume, with the obvious effect on the price required to break even.) I would guess that an active display would be more affordable, perhaps using something like Texas Instruments' DLP technology. (I am guessing that the micromirrors could be programmed to project onto a moderately diffusive curved surface. For lower volumes maximizing the use of commodity hardware--even at significant cost in software development--would seem to be important.) Electronic paper would be so much nicer (visually and in terms of power consumption) than a projection-based globe, but I suspect the NRE would be far too great. (I doubt any makers of electronic paper would produce such a globe for the purpose of marketing.) Perhaps I am excessively pessimistic--I admit I know almost nothing about the constraints of electronic paper--, but such a globe does not seem economically practical in the near future.

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Max The Magnificent   8/2/2012 7:56:54 PM
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Now you are making me wear my sad face ... shame on you!!!

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Paul A. Clayton   8/2/2012 11:16:33 PM
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On the perhaps slightly positive side, there is a Science on a Sphere system at McWane Science Center in Birmingham, Alabama (http://www.mcwane.org/ ). This might be sufficiently close to you that you could go and see what future generations might have in a smaller and less expensive form. Also, my pessimistic view need not correspond to reality.

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Max The Magnificent   8/3/2012 1:47:32 PM
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I found that one in Birmingham last night -- I hope to go down to see it in a few week's time

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Battar   8/1/2012 7:55:08 AM
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If thats what happens when you look at a globe, what happens when you open Google Earth? And then start zooming in and out? And going for a stroll in the neighbourhood with streetview? You could be days in front of the computer screen. To me, the most amazing feature of Google earth is the fact that all that information is free, gratis, and for naught. (And the fact that like in Disney movies, the sun is always shining in Google earth).

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Max The Magnificent   8/1/2012 1:58:31 PM
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I agree -- I love Google Earth -- when my wife and I are watching a travel program on TV (like "House Hunters International" on the Home and Garden Channel, for example), I almost invariable bring up Google Earth on my iPad to get a better "feel" for the place... But I have to tell you that I am amazed just how "different" it feels to have an old fashioned physical globe in front of you -- I'm seriously thinking of getting a much larger (36" diameter) one -- if I can find one that's affordable...

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ReneCardenas   8/1/2012 3:07:43 PM
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Thinking of the possibilities, a globe with built-in electronic animation that would show human migration, and present human population densities. Perhaps, it could spare so much life loss, in those places that have such hostile conditions.

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Max The Magnificent   8/1/2012 3:11:12 PM
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I am really REALLY enthused by this idea. There are so many things you could do with this -- starting with showing the continents as them moved over time -- then as you say human migrations -- and evolving political / country boundaries...

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SteveD_Aus   8/2/2012 5:47:53 AM
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The globe has come off the shelf for the Olympics at my place, with the kids looking up countries during the opening ceremony and when a competitor's nation takes their fancy. A good way to learn. Of course, memorising all of the states is easy if you live in Australia. ;-)

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Max The Magnificent   8/2/2012 10:47:35 AM
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That's a good point about it being a good way to get kids to learn ... thanks for sharing

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palf   8/2/2012 7:48:17 AM
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I think the true scale and proportion (i.e. lack of the distortion which any map has) is what makes a globe so appealing. Then there's just the simple good feeling of being able to directly hold it in your hand, like a cricket ball, and to be able to directly span off distances with finger and thumb. The "2D monitor universe" has taken away our sense of 3D touch when it comes to information processing. The idea of a programmable globe surface is fantastic.

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Max The Magnificent   8/2/2012 10:40:15 AM
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Re: "The idea of a programmable globe surface is fantastic." I know -- I can't stop thinking about it!

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VectorForce   8/2/2012 8:05:41 PM
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There is a programmable globe surface available (probably not at consumer prices, though) called "Science on a Sphere" (spherical projection surface, multiple projectors). Several museums have them.

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Paul A. Clayton   8/2/2012 10:45:50 PM
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Thanks for pointing that out; I was not aware of such being available. Science on a Sphere has its own site (easily found by googling): http://sos.noaa.gov/What_is_SOS/index.html The sphere is 68" (~173cm) in diameter and seems to be basically a screen for eight ("the projectors are at the corners of a virtual box with the sphere at the center") external projectors controlled by a computer. (Using external projectors is probably more practical in set up and maintenance and more cost effective, but such would have disadvantages in terms of sensitivity to vibration of the screen or projector and blocking the path between screen and projector.) The available datasets are biased toward weather/climate (as one would expect from being provided by NOAA), but there is an "Evolution of the Moon" dataset from NASA (in "Extras") and a collection of "Astronomy" datasets.

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Paul A. Clayton   8/2/2012 11:03:42 PM
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At an estimated $44k for just the components, that would be a bit outside of "consumer prices". :-) It seems only four projectors are required (and a spare is recommended)--at $4.5k each, this is the majority of the cost. (The sphere is $8,310; the computer is $2,500 and a spare is recommended [so $5k].)

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SteveD_Aus   8/2/2012 11:32:57 PM
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The other cool factoid about San Marino is that it is big enough to have had a Formula 1 Grand Prix but not big enough to have a track! :-P http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Marino_Grand_Prix

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Max The Magnificent   8/3/2012 1:45:25 PM
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It truly is a funny old world, isn't it?

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rzd   8/3/2012 8:09:21 AM
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You might need a slightly bigger office to fit this one but, the globe that you want is hanging in the Tokyo Science museum: http://tokyotek.com/geo-cosmos-gigantic-globe-oled-display-video/ Watching realtime weather patterns on it and day and night images is pretty cool.

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Max The Magnificent   8/3/2012 1:31:05 PM
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I WANT I WANT I WANT!!!

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Recumbent Rider   8/6/2012 10:24:42 PM
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Another possibility is Science on a Sphere (projected on the sphere rather than an active display): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_On_a_Sphere I see they have one in at the McWane Science Center in Birmingham, AL -- perhaps a few hours away, by car, from you in Huntsville.

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Max The Magnificent   8/6/2012 10:28:10 PM
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I just heard about this the other day -- I'm hoping to take a trip to see it sometime in the not-so-distant future

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