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EE Times Radio Show Debate: Embedded or Not?
Max Maxfield Max Maxfield
6/25/2014 06:00 PM EDT  
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A couple of weeks ago, I posted a blog about my forthcoming trip to ESC Brazil. One of the talks I'll give at the conference is tentatively titled "Robot Apocalypse: Trends in Embedded Systems." This led me to pose a question: Just What Is an Embedded System? In turn, this led to a Flash Poll of the same name. (Have you contributed yet?)

It's funny how this sort of topic seems to grow in the telling. The responses to both the original article and the Flash Poll have been so overwhelming that it's led to a first for EE Times -- a live Radio Show debate between yours truly and the embedded guru Jack Ganssle. (By that, I mean Jack is an expert in embedded systems, not that he's a guru who was embedded in something while he wasn't looking.)

As the image above illustrates, I think it's safe to say I have Jack on the run. (I'm the one in green.) The thing is that there is a significant amount of confusion as to what is -- and is not -- an embedded system. In some cases, even the experts disagree.

Does the system have to be electronic, or does a mechanical system count? In the case of electronic systems, some people would class microwave ovens, dishwashers, and washing machines as embedded systems, assuming they have one or more processors. What about smartphones, smart watches, and smart cameras (with WiFi)? How about tablets and blade servers? What about an oscilloscope (with the Windows OS) or a set-top box (with the Linux OS)? How about an automobile?

This Radio Show will take place Friday, July 11, at 2:00 p.m. ET (11:00 a.m. PT). The show will commence with a 30-minute chat, which you can listen to as streaming audio in your web browser. Following this chat, you can join in the live (text-based) question, answer, and discussion session.

To take part in the live text chat, you need to be a member of the EE Times community. If you aren't already a member, now would be a perfect time to register. You also need to register for the radio show itself by clicking here.

So there you have it. This is your chance to become part of EE Times history. In the years to come, this august event will be discussed in hallowed tones. Anytime a group of grizzled old engineers meet together, one will eventually remark, "I took part in the Great EE Times Debate of '14." A hush will fall, and everyone will draw closer. Eventually, a junior member of the throng will timidly whisper, "Please tell us what it was like, o revered one."

— Max Maxfield, Editor of All Things Fun & Interesting Circle me on Google+

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Garcia-Lasheras
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Re: Is there such thing called Embedded System?
Garcia-Lasheras   6/26/2014 10:21:19 AM
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I looooove black clothes!! It makes me think a super hero in between Batman and Neo. Of course, I also use to wear dark glasses!!

Garcia-Lasheras
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Garcia-Lasheras   6/26/2014 10:19:22 AM
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Yes, we have had the old one and the newest version. I grow up with Brenda & Brandon, and I felt in love with the blonde girl --not the daughter of the producer, the gourgeous one--. And we still make jokes today about a "teenarger" such as Dylan, that looked more like a alternative professor that a rebel alumni.

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Max The Magnificent   6/26/2014 10:15:20 AM
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@Garcia: ...I will wear the black Hawaiian shirt I bought at San Jose for EE Live!, the one that makes you feel sad...

I appreciated the effort ... I was only sad because you didn't have a bright and cheerful Hawaiian shirt to lighten your day :-)

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Max The Magnificent   6/26/2014 10:13:45 AM
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@Garcis: ...like living in Beverly Hills 90210...

You got that in Spain? (I'm so sorry)

Garcia-Lasheras
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Garcia-Lasheras   6/26/2014 10:11:23 AM
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@Max: OK, I wil wear the black Hawaiian shirt I bought at San Jose for EE Live!, the one that makes you feel sad... but don't worry, I'll add the Sanfermin red accoutrements to make it happier ;-)

I'll sent some "selfies" to the chat thread -- Have you notice how using words such as "selfies" makes you feel cooler, like living in Beverly Hills 90210 LOL!!!

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JanineLove   6/26/2014 10:08:18 AM
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@Max, based on the graphic, I thought we all had to wear green.

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Re: Is there such thing called Embedded System?
Garcia-Lasheras   6/26/2014 10:05:33 AM
@Janine: so, we will be in the same team, arguing together from the pragmatic market-oriented side of live ;-)

 

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Max The Magnificent   6/26/2014 10:01:27 AM
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@Janine: ...after reading all the other responses, I think I'll wait for the debate...

Did I mention that the dress code for the debate is Hawaiian shirts?

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Max The Magnificent   6/26/2014 9:59:58 AM
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@alex_m1: Max, will you be at the debate , muttering "my precious" and holding an arm mcu ?

No -- I'll be muttering "my precious" and fondling my ceramic-packaged 4004 CPU :-)

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Re: You mean Embedded Electronic systems ?
Max The Magnificent   6/26/2014 9:55:36 AM
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@Prabhakar: So a Human body can be termed as an Embedded system isn't it?

Well -- based on your definition -- wouldn't the human body be classed as a collection of smaller embedded systems?

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