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What's the problem?
Measurement.Blues   7/15/2014 4:33:21 PM
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@Max, have you ever heard of a DVR? Or in my case a VCR?

but I cannot possibly watch them all, so I was hoping to elicit your advice. Have you watched -- or are you currently watching -- any of the following?
    • Continuum
  • Defiance
  • Dominion
  • Falling Skies
  • Lost Girl
  • Orphan Black
  • The 100


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Max The Magnificent   7/15/2014 4:39:55 PM
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@MeasurementBlues: ...have you ever heard of a DVR?

Sure -- but the problem of time remains -- I have a drawer full of really good DVDs that I simply haven't found the time to watch yet -- the last thing I need to do is fill the DVR.

What I do is use the DVR to record "The Last Ship" on Sunday evenings while Gina and I watch cooking shows -- then I'll watch that episode the following weekend while she's at work.

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David Ashton   7/15/2014 6:35:18 PM
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@Max...time is the problem.  On Tuesdays (last night here) we get 2 back to back episodes of Air Crash Investigations, which I love.   We only watch one, then go to sleep.  Or rather my wife does, I lie awake wondering what i have missed....

I have a set top box someone gave me that can record to USB - I must see if I can get that working for time shifting.  But it's still a problem finding time to watch....

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betajet   7/15/2014 6:57:04 PM
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David wrote: we get 2 back to back episodes of Air Crash Investigations, which I love.   We only watch one, then go to sleep.

Great bed-time entertainment!  "Pleasant dreams, hmmmmHeh-heh-heh-heh-heh-heh-heh".

[from Inner Sanctum, a popular USA "Golden Age of Radio" show.]

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betajet   7/15/2014 7:02:03 PM
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Max wrote: Sure -- but the problem of time remains -- I have a drawer full of really good DVDs that I simply haven't found the time to watch yet -- the last thing I need to do is fill the DVR.

Max, I don't think you understand the purpose of the DVR as a labor-saving device.  Haven't you read Douglas Adams' Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency?  The purpose of a DVR (or VCR in the book) is to watch TV for you :-)

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Max The Magnificent   7/16/2014 10:01:47 AM
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@betajet: Haven't you read Douglas Adams' Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency?

Do I look like the sort of man who wouldn't have read Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency?

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nexusone1984   7/17/2014 2:17:18 PM
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I watch all that he listed, I DVR them and watch them as I get time.

 


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Max The Magnificent   7/17/2014 3:17:26 PM
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@nexusone1984: I watch all that he listed, I DVR them and watch them as I get time.

Wow -- how do you find the time to watch all of them?

Also, since you watch them all, ho wwoudl you rate/compare them to each other?

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Other suggestions
rich.pell   7/15/2014 9:54:37 PM
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"And are there any that I've missed out?"

Game of Thrones?  The Walking Dead?

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Max The Magnificent   7/16/2014 10:05:04 AM
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@Rich: Game of Thrones?  The Walking Dead?

I've seen the Game of Thrones advertized -- but I haven;t seen a single episode and have no real idea what it's about -- is it worth watching.

Re the Walking Dead, I devoured the first couple of series -- right up to the end of the series where the camera pull sback and you see the prison in the background -- but then I read all of the graphic novels, so I know what's coming next ... and I stopped watching. If I start again, I'll have to go all the way back to the beginning...

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rich.pell   7/16/2014 10:17:55 AM
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"I've seen the Game of Thrones advertized -- but I haven't seen a single episode and have no real idea what it's about -- is it worth watching."

Hell, yes.  But then again, I'm not familiar with any of the other series you've mentioned except for Dr. Who, which I never was particularly a fan of, so perhaps we're on different wavelengths.  :)

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Max The Magnificent   7/16/2014 10:25:17 AM
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@Rich: ...except for Dr. Who, which I never was particularly a fan of...

Wash your mouth out with soap and water -- you are obviously a man of no account -- like I would take advice from one such as you -- "Ha!" I say! :-)

 

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Max The Magnificent   7/16/2014 11:20:05 AM
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@Rich: ...except for Dr. Who, which I never was particularly a fan of...

And I used to call you "friend" ...

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WDM   7/16/2014 2:32:04 PM
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It seems a common affliction - watching to the bitter end - "Earth 2" and "Battlestar Galactica" come to mind, although to be fair, the latter was extremely good right up unitl the last few episodes.

I'm currently addicted to "Defiance" - plausible settings, engaging characaters, real human reactions to stresses, extremely well-done sets, SFX and makeup, believeable anthromorphaliens (is that a word?), MacGyvering of old-Earth tech as well as a gentle sprinkle of AlienTech. They even have an even more addictive online massive multiplayer game where you get to give it in spades to the baddies.

I give it an A++. My wife doesn't get it, but then again, she didn't ge BG either. Luddites.

Wayne

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Max The Magnificent   7/16/2014 2:52:06 PM
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@WDM: It seems a common affliction - watching to the bitter end - "Earth 2" and "Battlestar Galactica" come to mind...

I never saw "Earth 2" -- was it worth it? I remember the original "Battlestar Galactica" when I was young -- I havn;t seen the new one, but I have a sneaking suspission that I have the whole thing on DVD in a cupboard somewhere -- is it worth my rooting it out?

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WDM   7/16/2014 2:58:32 PM
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If you never saw Earth 2, consider yourself lucky. It started out well, but descended into the truly bizarre before it saw the axe.

BG (new) is actually well worth the time - unlike the spinoff. It started with a solid base of the best parts of the original series, brought out really good explanations of the how and why, and the plot and character development, as well as the acting was spectacular. Dig it out and tell me I'm lyin'!

Wayne

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Max The Magnificent   7/16/2014 3:05:23 PM
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@WMD: Dig it out and tell me I'm lyin'!

I don't need to I can tell you are a man of impeccable taste (unlike that no-account Rich Pell, who isn't fit to lick the ground Doctor Who walks on!)

One I really did like was Babylon 5 -- the way the "Shadows" grew in the telling and the story developed. I'm seriously thinking about getting the entire series on DVD ($99 the last time I looked on Amazon) ... but then I come back to thinking "I haven't got the time..."

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Etmax   7/17/2014 10:19:40 AM
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Philistines all of them, how can you not be in awe of Dr Who, I too have watched it from the beginning but the new format where some 40 minutes once per week gives you the story is my preference as I don't like piecemeal viewing.


From your list I haven't seen any of them except Orphan Black, which is superb. I watched one episode and was hooked. Brillian acting and a fabulous story. Not always factual in the science department but then it does have the word fiction in there somewhere.


My wife heads off into the land of nod as well, but I have too much energy for that and just get up and watch something else until I feel I am tired enough to sleep. I haven't done much on my projects for a few years now because I just have too much work and so need to do something else in my free time like watching SciFi.

Big Bang is a classic to and will be one series of the day that will endure, so many are fly by nighters, a lot like Rap (talking music, not SciFi :-) ), which is popular now but my guess is in 15 years nobody will talk about it.

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Max The Magnificent   7/17/2014 11:04:03 AM
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@Etmax: From your list I haven't seen any of them except Orphan Black, which is superb. I watched one episode and was hooked.

OK -- you've persuaded me -- I will watch the first episode of the first series (it's on my iPad) and see if I get sucked in ... see you on the flip-side :-)

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Etmax   7/18/2014 9:13:29 AM
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"From your list I haven't seen any of them except Orphan Black"

oops I tell a lie, I saw the first 3 episodes of Defiance, but didn't become a fan. I can't put my finger on it, but something just didn't gell with me. Perhaps they tried too hard to be like the later episodes of Star Trek NG?? Not sure.


I think where a lot of writers go wrong is they start of really good with a game plan in the first season not really expecting it to go far and then they have muddle through for the second or maybe not until the 3rd season with a whole lot of stuff that doesn't match the winning formula.

Also they often get into really twisted drama putting sex or relationships in there just so that it's there rather than having it an integral part of the story. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a prude that doesn't like sex or twisted drama but it has to belong in the story, and so often it's like the value of itching powder or a whoopie cushion in a nudist colony.

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Max The Magnificent   7/18/2014 9:28:33 AM
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@Etmax: I think where a lot of writers go wrong is they start of really good with a game plan in the first season not really expecting it to go far...

That's what I like about Dr Who -- especially the past few seasons -- when you go back and rewatch them you see that there are clues in the early episodes that tie in to things at the end of the season (sometimes in future seasons)

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Measurement.Blues   7/18/2014 9:32:00 AM
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Kind of like Harry Potter, but you actually have to read the books to understand. For example, JK Rowling mentions the name Sirius Black in the book 1 chapter 1, but he doesn't appear until book 3.

 

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Etmax   7/18/2014 9:56:27 AM
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Exactly, and why it's probably the only SciFi series that has gone from circa 1962 through to 2013. You just get bored I reckon when something is intellectually trash (unless you're intellectual trash ;-)) I think they've proved that viewers want something that keeps them interested and doesn't consider them fools.

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nexusone1984   7/17/2014 3:24:48 PM
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I a big Dr Who fan, but dropped out after Tom Baker, then wasdissapointed with the FOX TV reboot.

Just happend to catch a David Tennant episode a few years back now(He is my fav. after Tom Baker, and who does not forget their first.  LOL), been re-hooked since.

Just like if you not watched Sherlock (BBC) recommend it and of course Orphan Black (BBCA).

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betajet   7/17/2014 3:46:04 PM
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I've only seen Tom Baker as the Doctor.  I can't imagine anyone else.  Tom Baker was a great Puddleglum too!

I also don't care for Star Trek without the original cast.  As a friend of mine said: "Who can believe that by the 25th Century they haven't developed a cure for baldness?"

Being a snob about these things really helps cut down on TV watching :-)

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Max The Magnificent   7/18/2014 9:26:12 AM
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@betajet: "Who can believe that by the 25th Century they haven't developed a cure for baldness?"

I sure they had -- it was a personal choice.

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betajet   7/18/2014 10:10:11 AM
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Max wrote: I sure they had -- it was a personal choice.

Sorry Max, I'm all for "willing suspension of disbelief", but there are limits :-)

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Max The Magnificent   7/18/2014 10:12:42 AM
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@betamax: Sorry Max, I'm all for "willing suspension of disbelief", but there are limits :-)

Hey -- bald suited him -- I can't imagine him any other way -- would you rather he'd been sporting an "Einsteinian Mop"

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betajet   7/28/2014 1:13:38 PM
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Max wrote: Hey -- bald suited him -- I can't imagine him any other way...

The Devil's Disciple (1987)

QED

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Douglas442   7/21/2014 5:17:10 AM
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Max said: "Yes, I should have said Fox TV in conjunction with BBC. I had so much hope for that film ... until I saw it ... I mean, it was OK, but that was it ... just OK ..."

It would have taken a real fan of the show to have labeled that movie "OK". More accurately, it seemed as if FOX's intent might have been to deliberately sabotage the return of the series. No fault of the cast - I personally thought McGann was actually quite well suited to the role. Too bad they wasted it.

And... well, apologies for that... the then president of FOX Network hailed from a family native to my own home town... buddies and cronies with some folks that I *used* to work for. Somehow... I feel partially responsible.

Max said: "But the 2005 relaunch was everything I coudl have hoped ... I LOVE THIS SHOW!!!"

No question that I would agree. What amazes me is how they can pack so much into one hour episodes, and still manage to pull off such satisfyingly entertaining stories. This is a sure sign of creative talent... with great acting as a bonus. And though some may never be able to get past Tom Baker...

 ( who really was great!... I mean, who else could smile manically while delivering lines like: "I say, what a wonderful butler! He's so violent!"... and get away with it? )

... the new series casts have also certainly had a lot going for them, as well. And not just the actors in the title role. Speaking of which......

Max said: "@betajet: "Who can believe that by the 25th Century they haven't developed a cure for baldness?" I sure they had -- it was a personal choice."

It certainly hasn't done Karen Gillan ( Amy Pond to Matt Smith's Doctor ), a tremendous actress in her own right, any harm to her career, at least:

http://news.moviefone.com/2014/07/10/guardians-of-the-galaxy-karen-gillan-nebula

And, if comic-book movies aren't your thing, she has also starred in the recent "cult classic" thriller, Oculus.... and will be co-starring in a new American ABC series, Selfie, in the fall. Hope it all goes well for her, as I think she deserves success.



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Max The Magnificent   7/28/2014 11:27:39 AM
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@Douglas442: It would have taken a real fan of the show to have labeled that movie "OK". More accurately, it seemed as if FOX's intent might have been to deliberately sabotage the return of the series.

I was trying to be charitable LOL

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Etmax   7/18/2014 9:23:20 AM
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:-) my wife used to hate my passion for Dr. Who but never missed a David Tennant episode. BTW are you sure the relaunch is Fox and not BBC??

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Max The Magnificent   7/18/2014 9:31:40 AM
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@Etmax: BTW are you sure the relaunch is Fox and not BBC??

The main relaunch in 2005 was by the BBC. I think the earlier comment about the Fox Relaunch referred to the one-off film in 1996 that was hoped to kick things off agaon. That was developed as a co-production between the BBC, Universal Studios, 20th Century Fox, and the American Fox network.

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Etmax   7/18/2014 9:57:38 AM
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Thanks

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nexusone1984   7/18/2014 10:11:36 AM
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Yes, I should have said Fox TV in conjucntion with BBC.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Who_%28film%29

 

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Max The Magnificent   7/18/2014 10:14:54 AM
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@nexusone1984: Yes, I should have said Fox TV in conjucntion with BBC.

I had so much hope for that film ... until I saw it ... I mean, it was OK, but that was it ... just OK ...

But the 2005 relaunch was everything I coudl have hoped ... I LOVE THIS SHOW!!!

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Max The Magnificent   7/18/2014 9:25:04 AM
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@nexusone1984: Just happend to catch a David Tennant episode a few years back now(He is my fav. after Tom Baker, and who does not forget their first.  LOL), been re-hooked since.

I strongly recommend that you go back and watch the new Dr Who from the beginning of the 2005 episodes.

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Continuum
Barry_Moss   7/16/2014 2:51:41 PM
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I've been enjoying Continuum, although lately it seems more like the science fiction side of it has been downplayed in favour plot twist after plot twist. 

 

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Max The Magnificent   7/16/2014 2:54:20 PM
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@Barry: ...lately it seems more like the science fiction side of it has been downplayed in favour plot twist after plot twist...

I don't mind a good plot twist or too ... so long as they don;t twist it so much that no one has a clue what's going on anymore (I heard that happened to "Lost" -- but once again I never started looking at that one). 

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betajet   7/16/2014 3:31:50 PM
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Max wrote: I don't mind a good plot twist or too... so long as they don;t twist it so much that no one has a clue what's going on anymore...

Better steer clear of The Saragossa Manuscript (book 1805 or 1810, movie 1965).  Marvelous book and movie: a celebration of the art of story-telling, with deeply nested and interleaved stories.

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elizabethsimon   7/18/2014 4:33:39 PM
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@betajet ...steer clear of The Saragossa Manuscript...


A co-worker of mine thought that was the best movie made and got a bunch of us to go see it when it was in the theater once a year (this theater had a different old movie every night). The first time I was totally confused, the second time I followed most of it and the third time I was mildly disappointed that they didn't return to the original scene. I didn't realize there was a book but I shouldn't be suprised.

 

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Orphan black: Thumbs Up
kfield   7/16/2014 5:24:53 PM
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I am eagerly awaiting the delivery of the Orphan Black Season Two DVD set. Yeah, I know, it aired ages ago but we tend to bing watch everything at our house so we wait until it is available on DVD or on demand. Check it out - you won't regert it. The same actress plays several different roles (clones) and it's incredibly clever.

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Max The Magnificent   7/16/2014 5:27:36 PM
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@kfield: I am eagerly awaiting the delivery of the Orphan Black Season Two DVD set.

I've got the first episode of season 1 downloaded to my iPad -- I just wasn't sure if it was worth taking the plunge.

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kfield   7/16/2014 5:31:04 PM
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Well whether or not you take the plunge now or later depends on how many other series you have queued up. I don't feel at east unless I have at least two series ready to go after I finish the one I am currently on. Have you seen True Detective? Hands down, the most awesome show to come along since The Wire!

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MeasurementBlues   7/17/2014 2:35:51 PM
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@Max,

You have time for TV?

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MeasurementBlues   7/17/2014 2:37:12 PM
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What's TV, anyway? I'd rather play my guitar.

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Max The Magnificent   7/18/2014 9:23:43 AM
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@MeasurementBlues: I'd rather play my guitar.

One day, we might even let you put strings on it LOL

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Measurement.Blues   7/18/2014 9:25:35 AM
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@Max, you'll just have to attend the EMC Symposium in Raleigh, featuring the EMC Society Band.

 

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Orphan Black!!!
DrFPGA   7/19/2014 7:09:14 PM
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Everyone probably alrady knows how great this one is, but just in case...

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garydpdx   7/20/2014 5:08:01 PM
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No question, Orphan Black is the top show in Max's list, it's only a tough choice against Doctor Who.

One good aspect of all these shows is that they have short seasons ("series" in the UK) so one can alternate on streaming a couple of them each week in 1's or 2's as they are not all running at the same time.  (I'm a cord-cutter, don't have cable.)  My own rotation, besides the two shows mentioned, are Continuum (we get the first run in Canada), Defiance, The Last Ship, and 24 (the recent 12 hour run).  The only regular network show (20-22 episodes) that I have followed recently is Grimm, initially tuning in out of curiosity because it is set in Portland, Oregon.

 The only show on Max's list that I don't watch, but which I could have liked, is Falling Skies.  Into season 4, it's too far along to catch up.

 I have been flying overseas a fair bit lately so that's how I get my fix of House of Cards and the first few episodes of Stephen Merchant's cringingly funny Hello, Ladies.  One of my constraints is that my show choice is constrained by free streaming on channel sites (no Netflix, no HBO/SHO) or other legal means like airlines.

Tonight, I am going to try out The Strain, which debuted last week. :)

 

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DrFPGA   7/20/2014 5:35:14 PM
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Grimm is just good enough to watch, and portland is a plus. Have used google map a few times to figure out what location they are probably shooting in, like the scenes on the river...

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Max The Magnificent   7/28/2014 11:23:08 AM
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@DrFPGA: Grimm is just good enough to watch...

I watched the first two series ... but then I sort of drifted away...

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Max The Magnificent   7/28/2014 11:22:03 AM
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@garydpdx: Tonight, I am going to try out The Strain, which debuted last week. :)

I read the books so I had to watch this myself. I was out of the office all last week with no access to the Internet, so I downloaded the first episode and watched it yesterday, plus I DVR'd episodes 2 and 3. As far as I could see, episode 1 very closely matched the start of the first book in the trilogy. It's not the best, but it's not bad -- I'm looking forward to watching more episodes...

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garydpdx   7/28/2014 11:41:17 AM
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Darn!  FX Canada is blocked to all but Rogers Cable subscribers (at the moment) so I can only see this on FX in the US (if I don't have anything better to do on my next trip).

 

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Max The Magnificent   7/28/2014 1:15:47 PM
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@garydpdx: Darn!  FX Canada is blocked to all but Rogers Cable subscribers (at the moment) so I can only see this on FX in the US...

You can download it from the iTunes Store...

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Just don;t get started watching Dark Shadows from the beginning...
DrFPGA   7/19/2014 7:10:42 PM
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it will take you years to get all the way thru...

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Max The Magnificent   7/28/2014 11:17:30 AM
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@DrFPGA: ...Dark Shadows...

The original one from the mid-1960s? Been there, done that, it was soooo bad you just had to watch it LOL

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tv recommendations
seaEE   7/20/2014 1:10:28 AM
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Gilligans Island reruns.  Where else can you learn to make a radio from cocount shells.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8Uf8Zj9W24

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@seaEE: Where else can you learn to make a radio from cocount shells.

Where indeed LOL

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