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JGrubbs
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Re: Freeware is often the culprit
JGrubbs   12/17/2014 3:33:49 PM
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@mhrackin   Here is an article on how to spot and avoid some of these programs.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2429418/how-to-spot-and-avoid-installing-potentially-unwanted-programs.html

All of the examples for the article were contained in the installation of one free program.

Max The Magnificent
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Re: Freeware is often the culprit
Max The Magnificent   12/17/2014 3:27:41 PM
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@mhrackin: I just discovered the "terms of service" dodge yesterday...

What we need is for some brave soul -- a handsome chap like yourself, perhaps -- to check out these packages for the rest of us.

I don't mean every package on the planet -- just the ones I use would be a good start (LOL). You could start with PDF Creator and Many Downloader :-)

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Re: Freeware is often the culprit
mhrackin   12/17/2014 3:09:52 PM
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@max: "If you are trying to cheer me up, you aren't succeding" Well I'm NOT. Just sharing my hard-earned discoveries of the nefarious means used to ensnare the unwary. "Forewarned is forearmed!" I just discovered the "terms of service" dodge yesterday...

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Re: Freeware is often the culprit
Max The Magnificent   12/17/2014 2:51:32 PM
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@mhrackin: if you don't scroll through the entire megabytes of text, you WILL get "free SW" beyond your wildest dreams/nightmares!

If you are trying to cheer me up, you aren't succeding

mhrackin
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Re: Freeware is often the culprit
mhrackin   12/17/2014 2:29:26 PM
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@max: the sneakiest ones sometimes bury the "opt out" points for the junkware in the middle or near the end of the "service agreement" that you have to agree with to get the SW; if you don't scroll through the entire megabytes of text, you WILL get "free SW" beyond your wildest dreams/nightmares!

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Re: Freeware is often the culprit
Max The Magnificent   12/17/2014 2:06:45 PM
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@mhrackin: These programs almost universally "bundle"multiple other programs into each update package presumably to help pay the bills, for which I can't really fault them.

I don't mind them offering me additional tools and services -- I hate it wjhen they sneek things in on me -- this last one pasted a big image/advert at the top and bolttom of every web page I visited -- I ended up having to uninstall Firefox (and deleting all of uits data folders) and then reloading it and re-establishing all my shortcuts and passwords.

I was not wearing my happy face! 

mhrackin
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Freeware is often the culprit
mhrackin   12/17/2014 1:36:13 PM
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@max: you mentioned PDFCreator. I use a similar shareware product PDFLite mostly as a "PDF printer" lathough it can do much more. It comes with relatively frequent updates (as does Notepad++ which I also use). These programs almost universally "bundle"multiple other programs into each update package presumably to help pay the bills, for which I can't really fault them. However, every upadte gets sneakier in what you need to do to avoid installing something you don't want, or one that will conflict with another program already installed. This is also true for Java, Adobe Reader, etc. Now I go through the update procedures VERY CAREFULLY. Sometimes, with "nested" check boxes, removing the check from the top-level box LOCKS IN the checks in the lower levels rather than removing them! In other cases, the "Decline" box may appear "grayed-out" but you can click it to decline the "lagniappe" SW (I just returned from a long weekend in Louisiana at a Cajun-style wedding), Even so, I sometimes get something installed that I defintely do NOT want, and have to go thorugh the agony of trying to remove it and any tentacles remaining after the "uninstall" completes.

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Re: You missed Mac Pro
elizabethsimon   12/17/2014 11:30:27 AM
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@zeeglen

Auto update would not be so bad if it did save all open files first and then restored the machine to the exact same state it was in before the update - unfortunately this does not happen.


Actually the auto update isn't so bad its the auto-reboot that follows that is the problem. On win XP, I was balr to configure it so when th eupdate finished, it would just put up a dialog box reminding me that I needed to reboot. I haven't figured out how to do that on win 7.

Max The Magnificent
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Re: You missed Mac Pro
Max The Magnificent   12/17/2014 9:39:23 AM
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@zeeglen: My employer is going to 'upgrade' (yeah, right) my new PC to windooz7 next weekend.

Actually, out of all of them, Windows 7 is my favorite -- don;t knock it till you've tried it -- I'd be interested to hear what you think -- especially about the "Start > Search" function.



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Re: Some quotes from Jean Louis Gassee
Max The Magnificent   12/17/2014 9:37:07 AM
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@another nickname: These are old although still true and should match Max's long path to enlightenmnet...

Good ones!

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