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perl_geek
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Re: "real" food
perl_geek   4/13/2017 5:14:12 PM
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That sounds like a potential application for computer-based process control.

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wb9kzy   4/13/2017 4:29:21 PM
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I think there's a couple of things wrong with my syrup, for one thing, it needs either higher heat or longer boiling time or both to develop more caramelization for flavor.   The sap foams as it boils, the foam hits the hot side of the heating vessel and hopefully caramelizes - then that brown caramelization gets washed down into the mix with subsequent additions of sap.

It's like making candy, the mix pokes along at about 212F and then all of a sudden the temperature zooms up and if someone isn't there to take action almost instant carbonization!  I was using electric heat with temp control to finish the syrup so while it couldn't burn, it may not have been taken far enough to develop good flavor.

And the other thing is that possibly I'm losing my sense of taste/odor - not sure anything can be done about that.

Anyway, it was a fun thing to try - if I was a kid it would have made a great science fair entry !

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Re: "real" food
perl_geek   4/13/2017 1:04:02 PM
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I'm not surprised this year's maple syrup harvest wasn't good. The ideal circumstances are frosty nights between warm days, (to get the sap flowing), with it souring once the nights warm up. The warm spell in late February/early March messed that up.

As far as the flavour problem is concerned, you might want to read J.K. Galbraith's autobiography. He grew up in Ontario, near a maple bush that produced rich, colourful and flavourful syrup using the traditional open tubs. Attempting to "upgrade" the process, they invested in closed, hygienic kit that proceeded to yield insipid, taste- and colourless product. When they boiled it up exposed to wood smoke, leaves, and dead rodents, the old properties returned.

I wouldn't take his economic advice, though. He had so  much fun administering shortages during WWII that he spent the rest of his career trying to recreate them. However, he could write.

 

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Max The Magnificent   4/13/2017 11:53:12 AM
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@wb9kzy: ...It's hard to have a lot of experimental rigor when the work occurs outside in the cold over a wood fire :)

That's why whisky and beer were invented LOL

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wb9kzy   4/13/2017 11:50:16 AM
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Max -

 

Yanked out the taps today - will try it again next year, maybe it was just a bad year - there was a kind of false spring here in February so that might account for some of what happened.

It's hard to have a lot of experimental rigor when the work occurs outside in the cold over a wood fire :)

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didymus7   3/28/2017 9:20:52 AM
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http://foodadditives.centerblog.net/208-the-use-of-silicon-dioxide-in-food%20

This article is hilarious!  Excerpt:

Some of the foods that contain silicon are as follows:

Cement: One of the important uses of silica is in the manufacture of Portland cement. This type of cement is commonly used around the world. Portland cement is basically a fine powder and an important constituent of concrete.

No wonder sidewalks are in such bad shape with all the people nibbling on them!

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Re: "real" food
Max The Magnificent   3/27/2017 11:00:54 AM
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@wb9kzy: ...I recently tried making Maple Syrup, tapped the Maple trees, boiled down about 2.5 gallons of sap to a cup of syrup...

Wow -- very impressive -- I'm sorry this didn't work out -- but I'm sure that if you keep persevering you'll get it in the end -- please do keep us informed.

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"real" food
wb9kzy   3/7/2017 1:29:17 PM
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Max -

I recently tried making Maple Syrup, tapped the Maple trees, boiled down about 2.5 gallons of sap to a cup of syrup, the classic 40:1 ratio => 100% natural but really Log Cabin tastes much better and has the thicker texture - I must have done something wrong . . .  just got amber colored sugar syrup, no maple flavor.

Will give it another try when the gales calm here, this has to be done outside

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Re: All of those things serve a purpose
Max The Magnificent   3/7/2017 11:39:30 AM
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@Sean: ...By analogy, in electronics, we often have to complicate a supposedly simple design for reliability - add a small ESR-capacitor just here to service a small transient load, or a resistor here to prevent inrush current - and these additives serve similar purposes...

Curse you Red Baron -- it's hard to argue with your logic!

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Re: All of those things serve a purpose
Max The Magnificent   3/7/2017 11:38:31 AM
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@Sean: ...This isn't something you have to worry about at home, because (if you're like me) the idea of any home-made chocolate treats having a "shelf life", or even getting anywhere near a shelf before being eaten, is not something we have to deal with...

LOL I'm with you there :-)

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