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betajet
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Safety First
betajet   7/3/2015 11:36:09 AM
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Max wondered: ... about pulling up alongside him at the next light and asking him how he thought the world would look if we all followed his lead, but the opportunity never presented itself.

Probably just as well.  In the USA you're likely to get shot if you do something like that.

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Re: Safety First
Max The Magnificent   7/6/2015 9:51:40 AM
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@betajet: Probably just as well.  In the USA you're likely to get shot if you do something like that.

That's a whole other downer when you come to think about it.

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Gallagher's "jerk" darts
betajet   7/3/2015 11:49:31 AM
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The comedian Leo Gallagher once proposed that every driver be issued a dart gun with rubber-tipped stick-on darts labeled "jerk".  When someone does something that miffs you, shoot the car with your dart gun.  When the police see a car with three or more "jerk" darts, they pull it over and issue a ticket.

[Countermeasure: keep your car as dirty as possible so the darts don't stick.]

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Re: Gallagher's "jerk" darts
mna41   7/3/2015 5:45:04 PM
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How about using a paintball gun, instead? Are paintballs available with latex paints?

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Re: Gallagher's "jerk" darts
Max The Magnificent   7/6/2015 10:22:05 AM
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@mns41: How about using a paintball gun, instead?

I now have this vision of a typical day in New York City with all the drivers shooting paintball guns instead of honking their horns. 

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Re: Gallagher's "jerk" darts
elizabethsimon   7/3/2015 8:58:45 PM
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In my younger days, I had several close encounters with cars while riding a bicycle. I thought at the time that a short range dart gun mounted on the front bicycle wheel so that it coud be aimed at the tires of the car that was cutting me off would be a wonderful invention.

I also get really irritated at people who just toss their trash to the side of the road. I  once saw a girl toss her empty drink container on someones lawn while walking down the street. Fortunaly a cop also saw that and stopped and made the girl pick it up.

Yes there are bigger problems in the world but you have to start somewhere.

 

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Re: Gallagher's "jerk" darts
zeeglen   7/4/2015 9:07:30 AM
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@elizabethsimon I had several close encounters with cars while riding a bicycle

 Yes, some drivers can get very 'jerky' when they perceive a cyclist is 'in their way'.  I remember out riding two abreast with one of my kids on a narrow 2 lane city street, a jerk came up behind us and started reving his engine.  He could not pass because of an oncoming vehicle, and I was not about to pull to the curb so he could squeeze through and put us in danger.

After he was able to pass he hollered "Get off the road!".  No jerk darts handy, so flipped him the bird (the one-fingered salute) as we turned a corner and he continued straight.  He saw my gesture and schreeched to a stop, I could see his girlfriend with her hands up trying to calm him down.

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Re: Gallagher's "jerk" darts
David Ashton   7/5/2015 3:43:15 AM
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@Zeeglen...well don't keep us in suspense!!  What happened next??

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Re: Gallagher's "jerk" darts
zeeglen   7/5/2015 10:32:58 AM
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@David, nothing happened after that, we just kept on going.  The jerk realized that a bicycle making a getaway can cross lawns better than a car can.

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Re: Gallagher's "jerk" darts
David Ashton   7/5/2015 7:46:09 PM
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:-))

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Re: Gallagher's "jerk" darts
Max The Magnificent   7/6/2015 10:34:27 AM
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@Elizabeth: ...I thought at the time that a short range dart gun mounted on the front bicycle wheel so that it coud be aimed at the tires of the car that was cutting me off would be a wonderful invention.

Every now and again when someone does something really stupid -- like driving at 50MPH in a residential area with young kids, or zipping back and forth from lane-to-lane trying to gain a cars-length advantage -- I think of the film Carrie and I wish I had the mental powers to simply make all four of their tires deflate or something :-)

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Re: Gallagher's "jerk" darts
Max The Magnificent   7/6/2015 10:06:12 AM
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@betajet: When someone does something that miffs you, shoot the car with your dart gun.

Can you imagine what the world would be like if everyone was doing this LOL



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realjjj   7/3/2015 12:48:10 PM
There are so many things very wrong in the world that being bothered by something like this seems absurd.

Ido wonder if here you wanted to act, have you acted at all about lets say money in politics, global warming, NSA spying, world huger, corporate greed or whatever you might consider a major issue. If not ,why not, why do we act on insignificant things and when it matters we just give up?

 

 

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Talking to people
przemek0   7/3/2015 3:07:35 PM
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I like this definition of a sociopathy: it's the behavior which, if everyone engaged in it, would make our life shitty. The littering is a good example: Max's nemesis probably would say that his napkin will just dissolve in next rain, but if everyone did that, the street would look like those trash-strewn third world hellholes.


Speaking of talking to strangers, I like to pull up to strangers at stoplights if I see their brake lights out---there seems to be one or two a week on average where I live (and that's a relatively well-off area). I think I am doing a good deed, potentially saving the folks a ticket, and maybe even preventing a rear-end/pileup accident (I"ve seen cars with one or no brake taillights left) . I am trying to be friendly and nobody shot me, yet---most people seem thankful for the heads-up.

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zeeglen   7/3/2015 7:16:44 PM
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@przemek0 I like to pull up to strangers at stoplights if I see their brake lights out

Good plan, the last time I was told my rear lights were out was by a cop - but he was nice about it, and I replaced the fuse immediately.

Which brings up a point for discussion - with all the wonderful aspects of future autonomous cars on the horizon, why can we not simply have, in this present day and age, a car that can inform the driver when a brakelight burns out?

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Re: Talking to people
David Ashton   7/3/2015 8:12:34 PM
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@Zeeglen... "...a car that can inform the driver when a brakelight burns out?"

I've seen two clever ways of doing this.

The first is to have fairly low-grade fibre optic cable (the plastic type would do) running from near each bulb to a mimic diagram on the dash.  You can then see at a glance if each light is working.  If your tail/brake lights use the same bulb, no problem, it shows the change in brightness so it still works.

The other way was to put a reed relay with a few turns of wire wound round it as a coil in series with the light circuit,.  It's arranged so that the total bulb currents will just turn on the relay.  If one bulb fails the current won't be enough and the relay won't operate.  The relay could drive LEDs in i mimic diagram as above.

Of course if you refit modern led bulbs in the second arrangement, the current will go way down from incandescent bulbs and will look like a fault.

In any case, I doubt if manufacturers would want to spend this amount of money on something that doesn't give a good return, so don't hold your breath....but the plastic fibre method would be pretty cheap, I wonder why no-one's tried that yet? 

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Re: Talking to people
antedeluvian   7/3/2015 9:55:00 PM
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David

I've seen two clever ways of doing this.

There is at least one more, and it is in use today. You measure the current passing from the transistor. There are devices with this current detection built in and often multiple devices on a single chip. There are 2 types: one tha provides a binary current flow/ no flow signal and one that provides a signal proportional to the current flowing. I covered these in my first blog on MCU Designlines:  "Using MCUs: Intelligent Digital Power Outputs"

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David Ashton   7/4/2015 3:25:03 AM
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I remember that article Aubrey, these are natty devices indeed.  Pardon me; I am from the days of incandescent bulbs and electromechanical flashers.....

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Crusty1   7/5/2015 5:12:28 AM
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Aubrey, Many thanks for those parts links I have a couple of IC's I am trying to sort out and they match. It just luck as I want to do some supply measurements and had forgotten I had these from a previous use.

 

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Max The Magnificent   7/6/2015 10:29:22 AM
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@David: The first is to have fairly low-grade fibre optic cable (the plastic type would do) running from near each bulb to a mimic diagram on the dash.  You can then see at a glance if each light is working.

That is a good idea.

One thing I like about the place where I gert my oil changed is that they always get me to work my brake and indicators while they check the lights.

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zeeglen   7/6/2015 10:44:41 AM
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@David Ashton "...a car that can inform the driver when a brakelight burns out?" I've seen two clever ways of doing this.

I was thinking more that the ECM or other electronics already in the vehicle could be used for this. Tire pressure is displayed this way, lamp status could also be displayed quite easily, but I guess the marketeers think a whiz-bang touch screen that forces the driver to take his/her eyes off the road is so much flashier.

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Max The Magnificent   7/6/2015 10:23:34 AM
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@zeeglen: ...why can we not simply have, in this present day and age, a car that can inform the driver when a brakelight burns out?

That's a really good question

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Max The Magnificent   7/6/2015 10:11:50 AM
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@przemek0: ...I like to pull up to strangers at stoplights...

We all have our own ways of making friends LOL  But seriously, I agree -- if I see someone with a tire that's obviously low on pressure, if I get the chance to park next to them at a traffic light I'll let them know -- I know I'd appreciate it if someone told me.

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Max The Magnificent   7/6/2015 10:08:47 AM
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@realjjj: There are so many things very wrong in the world that being bothered by something like this seems absurd.

True -- but most of the bad things that are going on in the world are remote -- this was right in my face. Furthermore, if people don't care about the little things, then they sure as heck aren't going to be bothered by the big things. Would you want the guy who throws his trash out of the car to be in charge of anything important?

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perl_geek   7/3/2015 4:23:07 PM
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Isn't that what dashcams and cellphones are for? Record the obnoxious behaviour, be sure to include a license plate or other identification, and post it to social media. The baying mob can probably be relied on to apply disproportionate sanctions. (Just ask Tim Hunt http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/medicine/laureates/2001/hunt-bio.html )

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Max The Magnificent   7/6/2015 10:20:18 AM
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@perl_geek: The baying mob can probably be relied on to apply disproportionate sanctions -- Just ask Tim Hunt...

Very sad -- I just read this account.

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zeeglen   7/3/2015 7:47:13 PM
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Max, your blog reminds me of a story I remember from many years back - I think I read it in a Reader's Digest magazine when a child.

A rich type in a Cadillac pulled up to the gas pumps at a Mom & Pop gas station.  While Pop was filling his tank, the driver proceeded to dump the contents of his overflowing ash tray out the window onto the cement gas pump island.

The Mom came out with a broom and dustpan, swept up the ashtray contents, opened the rear door of the Cadillac, and dumped the ash tray contents onto the back seat...

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Max The Magnificent   7/6/2015 10:24:38 AM
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@Zeeglen: The Mom came out with a broom and dustpan, swept up the ashtray contents, opened the rear door of the Cadillac, and dumped the ash tray contents onto the back seat...

I would so love to have seen this...

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Handicapped parking spots....
David Ashton   7/3/2015 8:25:56 PM
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Max, I have a disabled wife, so this arouses my ire more than most.

Years ago I was in an airport and in a cranky mood (airports do this to me) and took my wife to the disabled toilet.  It was occupied.  eventually a tarty blonde emerged with nothing much wrong with her at all.  I abused her considerably, threatening to break her legs so she could use the disabled loo.  She looked so scared as she went off that I'm surprised I was not arrested later.   On another occasion an able lady said "but anyone is allowed to use the disabled toilet!"  "Only if you have no @#$%& common decency" I replied.  As you will gather, this sort of thing does make me cranky.   One other time I was going to follow a lady into a crowded shopping centre shouting "Hey, see this lady, she uses the disabled toilet but there's nothing wrong with her!"  (My wife was bursting so I didn't....)

One of these days I will get myself in to trouble, I think......

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Max The Magnificent   7/6/2015 10:31:16 AM
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@David: ...As you will gather, this sort of thing does make me cranky...

I can see that

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antedeluvian   7/3/2015 10:00:09 PM
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Max

Are there any other examples of "no respect" you can think of that you'd care to share with the rest of us?

At the risk of "igniting" a "flame" war- it would seem to me that smokers are the worst offenders. I often see drivers tipping ash out the window followed by flicking the butt. And how many times do you walk into a building where the pavement outside is littered with butts.

Perhaps it is an extension of the fact that if you can drop your butts, then any trash is also acceptable.

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Checking brakelights
perl_geek   7/4/2015 2:15:01 PM
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Whenever there's a reflective surface (e.g. a shop window) or an illuminable wall behind the car, apply the brakes and see if both light before moving off. (You do back into parking spaces, so that you emerge forwards into traffic, don't you?)

Indicators can be checked in the same way, although they tend to signal a failure with a change of frequency.

 

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No repsect
KKing1   7/6/2015 11:17:11 AM
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Sounds like everyone wants to get back at that one driver.

"Are there any other examples of "no respect" you can think of that you'd care to share with the rest of us?" - maybe these are "inconsiderate" as much as "no respect".

a) for you travelers - groups/people stopping at the top or bottom of escalator to decide where they need to go next (also stopping in main "walking" traffic flow to do something)

b) leaving mess in common area in office for someone else to clean-up

c) distracted driver sitting at green light and then giving you the bird when you beep

d) people stopping in a no parking/no standing zone (and just sitting there) causing safety hazard

e) people "vaping" in no smoking areas. Recent studies have shown nicotine still contained in the steam they expel (it is also sometimes annoying)

Sorry had a bad drive to work today, someone ran a red light!  Scary when you're on a motorcycle.

Oh yeah,

f) Cars not yielding right of way to motorcycles just because they are bigger.

g) Motorcyclist driving dangerously because their vechicle is more nimble and causing safety issues for other drivers

 

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TonyTib   7/6/2015 11:52:07 AM
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g) Motorcyclist driving dangerously because their vechicle is more nimble and causing safety issues for other drivers


In California, it's legal for motorcycles to split lines, so you see it a lot during rush hour.  For real craziness, find some videos of moped/moto drivers in a big city outside of the US (I've seen them in Spain zooming around the crowded, narrow downtown streets).

From what I've heard, if you want to see real craziness, try driving in Boston :)

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People stopping abruptly in supermarket aisles
Max The Magnificent   7/6/2015 11:21:23 AM
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I just thought about this one -- you are strolling through a supermarket when the person in front suddenly stops with no warning whatsoever.

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People leaving trollies in supermarket aisles
Max The Magnificent   7/6/2015 11:22:56 AM
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Here's another -- you find someone has left their trolly smack dab in the center of the aisle while they wander off in search of something or other.

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People being unprepared at the checkout
Max The Magnificent   7/6/2015 11:29:02 AM
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I'm starting to think I may have some unresolved issues with regard to supermarkets. Another one I just thought of is when you are standing behind someone in a queue at the supermarket checkout.

I'm thinking of a lady last night. She had a huge trolly-worth of "stuff" -- no problems there -- that's what the place is there for, of course -- it's just that ringing all of this stuff up and haveing it loaded back into her trolly takes ages -- and all she is doing is standing there like a lemon -- until the checkout person says "that will be xxxx"

This apparently takes the lady totally by surprise -- she now starts rooting through her purse looking for her checknook and pen and drivers license and goodness knows what else, and then takes forever to fill in the check. If she'd thought ahead, she could have had all of the information filled out while her stuff was being rung through.

This one seems to happen a lot of the time -- how is it that people simply don't think ahead?

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