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Sam Beal
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Sam Beal   7/25/2011 7:18:01 PM
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"knowledge meme" Everyone that Ritchey and Zasio taught/inspired/enlightened (like me) will remember at least part of what they learned to pass on. And the books and articles they've written will persist as long as our present civilization exists. We're past the Socratic limitation of oral-only knowledge I hope.

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Etmax   7/22/2011 4:44:42 PM
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So what else has changed :-)

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jonconnell   7/21/2011 8:40:33 PM
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Experience is everything... I am concerned today that there is a narrowing of education in engineers, combined with a brevity of tenure in any particular position... and that those resulting narrowly skilled people have access to the same shorthand information when pressed - this thing... Which is frequently innacurate and rarely tells the entire story. We used to stand on the shoulders of giants - I am concerned that we will soon be standing ona house of cards.

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Lujo   7/20/2011 9:11:31 PM
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Hi guys, it is of extreme importance to pass the knowledge and experience to younger generations. It will make their future safer and better. People become grandfathers and grandmothers for some serious reason. Experience of older people is important factor in survival game. IQ is only the part of the story. Small one. It is not enough. Everybody with the real life experience knows that. Society without good mechanisms for transferring knowledge will be faced with decline and probable destruction. I live in such society and I know very well what I am talking about. We used to make some complicated things (even chips and submarines) and we lived quite good without serious debt and crime rate was relatively low. Today, after some "bright" ideas in management and politics destroyed industry (so called "maximization of the profit rate" and philosophy that the profit is a sense of existence for a company) we have serious and growing debt and serious lack of people who know how to make and produce things. Physics of society says that once when situation in society gets worse (i.e. crime rate) it is difficult to repair it. There is hysteresis in that process. There is a lot of talk about ecology of natural habitats. Nobody talks about ecology of human society. And there is the answer to our questions. Human society has some natural structure and it should have it to be effective and prosperous. It should have it so that new generations grow up psychologically healthy. Don't let your experienced people die without respect of society and without transferring their knowledge and experience to younger generations. It is a matter of survival. BTW, look at the China growth. Do you really think that such growth can exist without the concept of "learning organization"? Bob Pease, rest in peace! There are some young warriors across the globe that will not forget you! Many thanks for your work! Best regards to all from the country where Nikola Tesla was born.

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a5eng   7/20/2011 9:20:58 AM
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All "experienced" engineers should take a little time to pas your knowledge on to your colleagues, and take every opportunity to learn from them. Mentoring doesn't need to be an institutionalized process, it can, and should happen informally. If you teach, you'll be surprised how much you will learn. This will ensure that future engineers do learn from those of us who have made the mistakes and learned a few things in the process.

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Sheetal.Pandey   7/19/2011 6:24:49 AM
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well life has its own phases..like birth, end of life is a reality. Make the the best use of this life and spread love :-)

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WKetel   7/19/2011 1:20:06 AM
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Bob, The last time that I saw adequately commented code was just after I wrote it. That was because I know that I will not remember what I did in another ten years, so I will need those comments to help me recall what the code does. Properly commented code is much less expensive because it is much easier to understand and work with.

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Jeanne Pindar   7/18/2011 4:32:09 PM
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Try http://electronics.stackexchange.com/ While they are mostly used to answer people's immediate questions, the stated goal of all the stackexchange sites is to become a "knowledge exchange" for all information about a field. Thus they are fine with people posting a general to which they already know the answer, question and immediately answering it.

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allwires   7/16/2011 6:03:03 AM
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I agree with you about schools needing to teach more about designing things rather than simply analyzing. During my final semester we had a seminar where we had speakers come and talk about things like managing money, patents, being a successful engineer, starting a company, etc. One of those days the head of the department came and we were free to give suggestions. Most people complained about computers or the lighting in the computer lab. When I brought up that we should get more design projects, the class went silent and everyone looked at me like I killed their mother.

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allwires   7/16/2011 5:45:15 AM
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I like your reply. I know that I am a minority (yes, a fresh out of college engineer). It seems like everyone on these forums think that I wouldn't be able to get anything done on my own, yet I find new ways to do things that are sometimes better than the older engineers would do, and often times worse. Sometimes doing something different can be better, since, how would we ever innovate if we always did things the exactly same way.

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