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Is it real, or is it Photoshopped?

Clive Maxfield
6/28/2012 02:24 PM EDT

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WKetel
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re: Is it real, or is it Photoshopped?
WKetel   6/29/2012 8:15:17 PM
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Probably 18 or more years ago I saw an ad for a photo editing program that showed all kinds of changes that could be made. And after the changes were made using the program, they then produced a negative that included all of the changes. Prior to that, some folks were quite good at "compositing", which was printing things from multiple negatives to produce one composite photograph. Also, consider the retouching that was done to portraits for many years. So even then photographs were being modified. Presently there is probably no limit to what can be put into a "photograph". So we can say that a picture usually lies.

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majortom84   6/29/2012 7:06:54 PM
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I am neither an astronomical / telescope expert nor do I have any experience with Photoshop, so I am counting on those who are to correct me and my fading memory, BUT... I was lucky enough to have a friend in an astronomy club take me to a place where about 50 people were gathered, with all types of different equipment: reflecting telescopes, digital cameras, pinhole projectors... Looking through lots of different things, I saw Venus in many different positions on the disk of the sun, but when I used a simple filter (i.e. untransposed by optics), I'm pretty sure it appeared much lower. If I am correct about that, what this photo shows is an uninverted jet passing before an inverted image of the transit - not possible without taking the images separately. Uh oh, hang on... perhaps if it were taken from the southern hemisphere? Ah well. I observed from Western NY State.

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Max The Magnificent   6/29/2012 6:29:10 PM
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very very cool

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BrainiacV   6/29/2012 6:24:51 PM
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My favorites for Photoshopping have been http://www.worth1000.com/ and http://www.somethingawful.com/

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Duane Benson   6/29/2012 3:28:55 PM
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I used the FotoForensics website on the sun photo and can't really decide is it's real or not. Based on how I interpreted what the tool shows, the plane might have been added in later, but I'm really no more sure one way or another than I was before. I think it takes better trained eyes than mine.

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Max The Magnificent   6/29/2012 2:30:43 PM
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Wow -- this is very interesting -- I'm up to my ears at the moment -- but I would love to see the results of running this analysis on the three images in my blog above ...

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SteveD_Aus   6/29/2012 5:30:17 AM
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Hi Max, perhaps you need to have a look at Fotoforensics, as espoused by blogger Boy on a bike: http://boy-on-a-bike.blogspot.in/2012/04/is-fairfax-doctoring-photos.html http://boy-on-a-bike.blogspot.in/2012/04/me-tampering-with-photo.html Then again that may not be as much fun as guessing! ;-)

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Max The Magnificent   6/28/2012 4:03:40 PM
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Ah Duane... it's not the size of your telephoto lens ... it's what you do with it that counts! :-)

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Duane Benson   6/28/2012 4:01:51 PM
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I had planned on getting out my long telephoto lens to photograph the Venus transit. Unfortunately, as usual in this part of the country, the clouds got in my way. To console myself, I decided that I could just as easily take a picture of the sun and put a black dot on it in my computer. Near the end of the transit, however, there was enough of a break in the clouds allowing some folks here to see it, but I had given up already. You may be wrong about the shark and dinosaur, unless your relatives spend time in the Pacific Northwest. I spotted the pair swimming near the old Trojan Nuclear plant on the Columbia river last weekend.

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