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So exactly what is the current state of physics?

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rpcy   9/2/2010 5:14:17 PM
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Well, AlvinL, we of all people should be a little careful here. The things you cited came out of engineering, which has an arms-length relationship with science. I like Henry Petroski's latest book, "The Essential Engineer", where he takes on this topic head-on. Engineers use science where it's helpful, but we don't let it stop us where it isn't. (Apart from that I enthusiastically endorse the point you're making.)

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AlvinL0   8/9/2010 4:31:58 PM
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Really? Science is of no benefit to the public? You mean cars, trains, planes, TV, computers (like the one you using right now), all of which came out of science, are of no benefit to the public? Science provided the very platform you are using to complain about science. If you don't like it, live in a tree or a cave where science won't bother you any more.

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SallyF   8/9/2010 3:05:04 PM
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The sad state of affairs in science is that researchers are looking for ways to justify job continuation more than anything of benefit to the public. The universe did not create itself. Chemicals did not spontaneously form themselves into a self reproducing cell. The genetic variety that we see today did not occur by mutation and natural selection. Atheist scientists don't need to look for a "God particle", they need to acknowledge the one God who created all things.

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kfield   8/8/2010 12:16:38 AM
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I strongly recommend Leonard Susskind's "The Black Hole War," which provides accessible explanations of some of the most provocative ideas about what physics is telling us about the world we live in. His discussion about how much information can be stored in a particular volume is fascinating.

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kdboyce   8/5/2010 6:51:38 PM
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Vis a vis my statement - "They also claim that if the LHC does not find the God Particle, they will have to build a bigger accelerator to try again-- at who knows what cost?" - latest news out of the International Physics conference held in Paris in July comes the headline and story: Search for the Big Bang… but Large Hadron Collider is not large enough at http://news.scotsman.com/world/Search-for-the-Big-Bang.6440823.jp

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kdboyce   8/4/2010 10:55:33 PM
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Thanks for catching the typo, and for pointing to other material.

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steveno   8/4/2010 6:07:25 PM
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To be honest, current Physics is really in a state beyond repair. Impenetrable free-floating math has replaced any serious attempt at mechanical explanations One unified gravity/charge field can support current physics in a mechanical way. This field was actually already found by Newton and Coulomb but misinterpreted as a single gravity or static electric field. Don't believe it can be simple? Check for yourself by reading "The Un-unified Field and other problems" (Authorhouse.com) by Miles Mathis for a fresh alternative to the above mentioned references.

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wilber_xbox   8/4/2010 5:43:49 PM
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By creating analogies in real life to the theoretical Physic concepts is usually the one and popular way to disseminate the knowledge but the main problem in doing so is the boundaries and extent to which these analogies make sense. Sometimes the Science populists forget to draw the line between the reality and fantasy. I am not against such TV-programs as long as they keep themselves to the facts. On one hand the books are the best way to get right information, a non-science (even science) background readers might easily get lost in the deluge of information. For Science based TV programs and books, the most popular ones are those which have some link to the universe. I wonder why?

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JMWilliams   8/4/2010 5:42:13 PM
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The proper spelling is "Higgs bosOn", not "bosun" (which is slang for a nautical deckhand, as in "bosun's mate" = boatswain's mate). Also, others have questioned the existence or properties of the Higgs boson. See http://www.science20.com/experimental_logician/blog/there_shouldnt_be_massive_higgs_boson

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Duane Benson   8/4/2010 5:11:17 PM
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The "info-lite fluff physics" bothers me. I like the potential of it, because I don't have the math in my head to get it in pure form, but it's always quite disappointing when I find that something has been translated into human language incorrectly. There are some folks out there that can and do translate physics properly, but the problem with our entertainment industry is that once one or two people doing it properly get popular, the industry forgoes accuracy for entertainment and then those of us without the math in our heads can no longer tell what's real and what's just entertainment-driven fantasy.

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