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Book Review: The Artificial Ape by Timothy Taylor

Clive Maxfield
10/20/2011 07:46 PM EDT

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Max The Magnificent   11/23/2011 2:43:42 PM
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Hi Marv -- with regard to your comment: "Believing in human evolution requires one to believe that the majority of mutations are beneficial " I don't see this -- my understanding is that the majority of mutations are not beneficial -- but the ones that don't convey any advantage (or have negative effects) die out...

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Max The Magnificent   11/23/2011 2:41:43 PM
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Let's not be too harsh ... to each his own...

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Max The Magnificent   10/28/2011 4:23:41 PM
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Thanks for the kind words and the suggestions :-)

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rosekcmr   10/28/2011 3:50:54 PM
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Good reviews, Max. To answer the question of transitional species (aka - missing links) there are dozens of them. Go to Richard Dawkins web site and take a look. As an aside, I don't believe in evolution either - I accept it as scientific fact!

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MarvA   10/25/2011 2:03:12 PM
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This is a delicate subject for most because it presumes that the reader understands what he believes and why he believes it. The book review starts out with “Assuming that you believe in evolution” and proceeds to discuss intelligence in the same paragraph and following paragraphs. I used to believe that man evolved from apes which evolved from the primordial soup. In my formative years the teaching in grade school and later was that scientists were looking for the “missing link” and they were making great progress. I never questioned it. No one around me had the nerve to question “science”. My wife drug me to a seminar entitled “Evidence for Creation” when I was 40 years old and believe me, I didn’t want to go. I knew what I believed as an engineer and scientist and didn’t want to bother with this ridiculous conjecture. I couldn’t speak for 3 hours afterwards because my life had been turned upside down and my “knowledge” had been completely refuted. Believing in human evolution requires one to believe that the majority of mutations are beneficial but that is contrary to observable evidence. Can an intelligent engineer imagine the statistical improbability of a completely finished and painted house appearing spontaneously as the result of a tornado hitting a lumberyard? First there was nothing, and then it exploded? If evolution were true we shouldn’t have to search for the missing link, we would be tripping over the “in-betweenies”. I am an analog engineer and everything is an “in-betweenie”. Instead the mosquito that bites you today looks exactly like the mosquito trapped in 65 million year-old amber. There is no denying horizontal evolution, but vertical evolution? To take the comments of Max and WKetel one step further, entropy of any closed system tends to decrease and energy must be added to the system to increase the entropy (organization, intelligence?). We were created by an amazing Engineer with plenty of Energy. Marv Amerine

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Max The Magnificent   10/23/2011 10:31:58 AM
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My understanding of this is that the act or organizing things (like creating complex cells) requires / consumes energy -- thereby causing an increase in entropy... This means that the act of each generation becoming more complex burns energy and increases the overall entropy...

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WKetel   10/23/2011 2:29:57 AM
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F rom thermodynamics we learn that all systems tend to move toward the minim free energy. That has been verified and it makes sense. It also would seem to imply that each generation would be a bit less complex than the one before. So how does that allow each generation to be so much more suited to it's environment? A rational explanation would certainly provide it's author with agreat deal of fame.

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