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yyrkoon
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yyrkoon   12/16/2010 9:34:14 PM
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Nothing is impossible. Since Windows Vista, the windows Hardware Abstraction Layer has changed significantly. Not to mention that somewhere around WinXP SP2 there has been an Embedded version of Windows separate from Windows CE. Modular in nature, you only have to build in what you want/need. Drivers, software, features, etc. It would not be too much of a stretch of the imagination to say that with Windows 8, you could build in your own CPU/platform needs. Perhaps you may have to write your own drivers for various things, but how is that different from any other option out there ? Another thing that confuses me here is that we're talking about embedded - and Yet you assume the need for Microsoft office ? Others yet insist the need for other Microsoft software to be ported to ARM ? Why would this even be necessary ? This would be for an embedded system which does not need anything past what it is intended for. It may even be running headless for that matter, or CLI only. One simple example would be a PoS device in a grocery store. Why do we need Office, minesweeper, or Media player for that matter? We don't. Chances are very likely that this system will only run one or two custom written third party applications *only*. Why add bloat ? As for a Desktop like application. It is very obvious that most applications will not work on it. Or maybe Microsoft could work the same magic they work when running x86 code on a x64 version of their OS. I doubt it though, it is vastly different. Still, not impossible.

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yyrkoon   12/16/2010 8:08:55 PM
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Well, well. I did not read through all of the posts here. Mainly because what I did read seemed like the same old zealot war of old. An Operating System is not a religion - An Operating System is a tool, and every tool has it use(s). Lots of people here seem to be forgetting one very important factor. Microsoft has an embedded line of Operating systems. Based on XP, Vista, and now I believe Win7 too ( Not even mentioning Windows CE ). Windows embedded is modular, not dissimilar to to the way Linux its self is modular. Except in regard to having access to the source code. One could most definitely "roll their own" version of Windows using this set of tools. For specific hardware, and end use. Often the systems that run this operating system are x86 based which can be terrible at energy efficiency. Perform a small number of *simple* tasks, and spend a lot of time idle ( sitting there waiting on user interaction ). Queue in ARM here. Now then lets be honest with ourselves. The above mentioned systems number in the millions. We run into them daily at the grocery store, bank, and even the occasional video rental KIOSK sitting out side of the local fast food establishment. Considering this, what harm could there be in saving an good amount of power in the process ? Evil empire or not. Personally I would rather see the "evil software" running on the most efficient platform possible.

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pteryx   11/8/2010 3:59:47 PM
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It is impossible to run real desktop Windows on anything else then x86. Windows are deeply attached to x86. It should not be too hard for Microsoft to create some new desktop_windows-like OS, possibly built on .NET, with full MS Office support ... But this will not be the main branch, as the backward compatibility is the biggest advantage of Windows.

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DrQuine   10/20/2010 1:53:57 PM
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Obviously this topic hits a nerve - and reveals our technical biases. My only additional observation would be that the title of the article is misleading "Why Microsoft Windows 8 WILL run on ARM" when, as an opinion piece, it should have read "Why Microsoft Windows 8 SHOULD run on ARM".

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Code Monkey   10/19/2010 10:33:21 PM
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The techies get annoyed when business strategy trumps technical prowess. Microsoft as the prime mover behind Moore's Law isn't something I'd thought of before. So yes, I am grateful for inefficient bloatware.

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oscalcmen   10/19/2010 2:08:08 PM
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I have used Win Mobile and non win mobile devices and by far the non win devices work a lot better. Of course win 7 works at the expense of 17G and just for the OS (or more) for the x64 platform!! that is crazy!!! You need a quite power full computer just for run the OS... I think that is not correct... the power should be for the applications ... Windows OS is a necessary evil a lot of applications runs on it that is true.

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TsJ   10/19/2010 7:33:06 AM
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It's not called wince for nothing lol!

TsJ
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TsJ   10/19/2010 7:28:51 AM
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What is it with all you anti-Microsoft types? Remember, if we didn't have Microsoft Windows we wouldn't have one hundreth of the computing power we currently enjoy in our desktops, laptops, PDAs and mobiles. In fact, we probably wouldn't have desktops and laptops at all, computers would still be limited to massive mainframes useable only by those companies that could afford to buy them. It's only because of Microsoft's policies with Windows, and the fact that they keep on pushing the boundaries of hardware and software, that we enjoy the processing power we have today. And before you Unix / Linux guys get started, Microsoft also had a version of Unix, it was called Xenix and ran on a PDP-11. And it ran very well indeed.

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Neo10   10/19/2010 2:14:13 AM
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See it this way, it's better than MS not doing anything and bodes well for ARM and some start ups waiting in the wings. Well, Win8 may be what we are not thinking- small and lean.

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Gil Russell   10/18/2010 5:00:33 PM
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I guess you could call this an Arm win...,

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