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daleste
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daleste   5/19/2011 12:27:29 AM
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Intel still has a lot of cash. They can become a presence in many different markets, but they still haven't been able to get a foothold outside of the PC processor.

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goafrit   5/19/2011 5:28:06 PM
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They can get into anything they want through acquisitions. This is one company that anyone must respect because in their domain, they are very big

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t.alex   5/21/2011 7:41:22 AM
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One thing they can consider is to revamp the ugly x86 architecture.

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goafrit   5/22/2011 2:30:05 PM
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That is it - they have the basics and can build upon that. The simple fact is that the PC world is dying

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Krutsch Robert Cristian   5/19/2011 10:18:37 AM
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This looks a lot like the Intel journey to enter the DSP business. That didn’t work… Careful with the piano on the stairs Intel…

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Aater (@FutureChips.org)   5/19/2011 6:03:35 PM
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Like to point out that DSPs and Low-power general purpose processors are very different. DSPs have very different constraints like real-time, predictability, etc. They throw out a lot of what Intel is good at, e.g., speculative execution, branch prediction, etc. In contrast, doing a low power design is right up their ally as they have all ingredients except low power. I say Intel has a much stronger change here.

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Krutsch Robert Cristian   5/23/2011 11:44:21 AM
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True, DSPs are a different kind of thing compared to low power devices. Have to remind you though that today’s DSPs have speculative execution and branch prediction. We all know the lamentable Intel journey in the DSP business even though ADI keeps on telling us it was a great experience...

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mikin   5/20/2011 7:04:43 PM
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Intel already have a great DSP kernel inside x86 chips (IA32 or IA64) starting with MMX series since 1994, Robert. And it works well otherwise you should see the H264 movies only to DVD :P

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LarryM99   5/19/2011 6:00:14 PM
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The software issue is something of a red herring regarding CPU selection. The platform is defined more by the OS than the CPU anymore. Change one compiler switch and recompile and most applications can speak ARM, as long as the OS libraries are consistent. Larry M.

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kdian   5/20/2011 1:42:57 AM
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Sony, Canon, WD, LaCie and others are apparently on the Thunderbolt bandwagon. Ya gotta keep up.

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rick merritt   5/20/2011 3:54:46 AM
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@doubleudot: We covered those peripheral folks. But still only one system OEM--Apple

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wee cee   5/20/2011 4:01:14 PM
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What if Apple puts Thunderbolt on iPhones and iPads? Other OEMs are sure to follow.

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Allen.Light   5/20/2011 5:51:28 PM
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Thunderbolt on iPhones and iPads? That would do wonders for your battery life. This technology may be 'royalty free' for Intel chip customers, but it is not an open standard - thus only one supplier for the chips - expect it to remain costly and un-popular until it's open like PCIe or USB.

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agk   5/21/2011 7:38:04 AM
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Intel's focus on low power consuming 32 nm medfield for smart phones will be a boon to the smart phone manufactureres and users.

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Charles.Desassure   5/21/2011 1:02:29 PM
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This is very interesting. I have no idea why Intel would like to take this approach. But they do have the cash.

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Dave.Dykstra   5/21/2011 5:39:04 PM
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Good article, Rick. But, as you point out, there are a lot of unanswered questions being covered up with a lot of hype. They have the cash, but do they have the will and the corporate culture to enable it.

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Simon7382   5/21/2011 8:38:15 PM
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All the people who constantly count out Intel have not learned from history. They have the tenacity come back and win as they proved time and again. I am not sure whether 10 years from now there will be ARM but there will be Intel.

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resistion   5/22/2011 12:32:50 AM
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Intel is trying to influence whole system development, including software. Silicon process is not foreground anymore, nor the CPU. So this is definitely outside their comfort zone.

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UdaraW   5/22/2011 2:55:03 AM
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Yes, Intel has the cash reserves and are in a position to make an effort to grow out of the PC processor market. From the consumers point of view, it would be nice to have Intel competing in low-power mobile processor market. From Intel’s point of view, what motivates Intel to leave its strong-hold in CPU processors and move out of their comfort-zone? Why not focus its effort in trying to improve what Intel is already good at? (E.g., Revamping x86 architecture)?

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Warren3   5/24/2011 2:42:25 PM
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A first for Rick in crediting the McAfee purchase as an unqualified good move, at least I think he's never yet quite come out and said it. And regarding MeGo; Intel looks to have a system solution in mind... the software is in place and the hardware's arrival, to successfully compete at any point in the segment stack, looks to be on its way.

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Stuart2121   5/24/2011 5:00:13 PM
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INVENTORS - DO NOT TRUST INTEL I invented a CPU cooler - 3 times better than best - better than water. Intel have major CPU cooling problems - "Intel's microprocessors were generating so much heat that they were melting" (iht.com) - try to talk to them - they send my communications to my competitor & will not talk to me. Winners of major 'Corporate Social Responsibility' awardS!!! Huh!!!! When did RICO get repealed?" INVENTORS - DO NOT TRUST INTEL!!! BTW, I have the evidence - my competitor gave it to me. BBTW, I am prepared to apologize to Intel if; • They can show that the actions were those of a single individual within the company, but acting outside corporate policy, and: • They gain redress on my behalf.

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mcgrathdylan   5/25/2011 9:07:40 PM
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@stuart21- what exactly are you saying? They sent confidential information about your invention to your competitor? What "communications" are you referring to?

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