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Apple iCloud's starts air war with Google

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LarryM99
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LarryM99   6/15/2011 1:08:38 AM
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Cloud computing or even more prosaic online storage can be very useful as long as the Internet infrastructure is up to the task of making the access painless. My biggest concern along those lines is the number of tollgates that are springing up. Unless ISPs can be convinced that they don't need to get a cut of everybody's business then all of these online services could be in trouble. Larry M.

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Raghuraman   6/14/2011 11:32:53 AM
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In essence, bottomline is sending private/proprietary data into a cloud, hopefully with a 'secure' network. Most companies that deal with internet are not software companies, forget security experts. They are at best 'users', already facing some security risk, and cannot afford to spend too much on a speculative technology like cloud computing putting their entire enterprise at a security risk.

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Duane Benson   6/13/2011 2:22:47 PM
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Quite a number of companies these days seem to be having Internet security problems with their data. It's interesting to ponder the security issues associated with wide-scale cloud storage and cloud computing. On the one hand, the cloud services companies should be experts at security. In the same sense that most companies don't design and maintain their own physical security systems, it may make sense to concentrate security expertise in the cloud services companies and end up with better overall security. On the other hand, one breach of the right sort could potentially cause much greater damage upon a large number of companies. In addition to concentrating expertise, it would also be concentrating risk.

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Raghuraman   6/13/2011 5:15:03 AM
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Cloud computing can only be used for 'data requests' by 'reading' or 'analysing' PUBLIC AND FREE DATA, 'performing simple, atomic transactions/computations on the same' and 'send the results back'. Sending/storing 'private' data into a 'public' cloud may be a non-starter. Cloud computing can be used to provide meaningful data/trends to people/companies ruminating on their future. Finally it boils to the DECISION that an individual or company takes after the 'data request'. For example, if you get data on what people in Texas aged beween 20 and 40 buy/search in music, maybe that could lead to a start-up in Austin or Dallas catering to this as their USP. Similarly, if you get data on what is the frequently searched job in California for people fresh out of college, may be that could lead to people thinking 'out of the box' and do something new (innovate?).

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daleste   6/11/2011 10:59:28 PM
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Dr. MP Divakar, thank you for the suggestion of using POP to download my yahoo mail. It is only a personal account, but I would hate to lose it.

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docdivakar   6/10/2011 8:51:05 PM
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@PJames: one thing you should do (to backup your Yahoo emails) is enable POP access and use an Email client (like ThunderBird) and down load all your messages to your desktop. I religiously do this since I also use Yahoo Small Business services for a startup. @Raghuraman: enjoyed reading your comments. You make too much sense that many marketing types don't want to hear! I for one have not bought in to cloud storage concept for personal stuff. There are many open source tools today that can easily create and manage RAID-like directories for your NFS-enabled hard drives at home. When 2Tb of desktop drives are selling for less than $99, it doesn't make any sense to shell out $10's of dollars monthly for on-line storage. Stuff that I need to pass on to family members easily fits on my 8Gb USB drive. If you still want to access your content on your personal network drives, you can do so with remote desktops any way. The emerging HAN market tools will make it even more transparent for many users bypassing the cloud storage. @hm: I just returned from DAC at San Diego yesterday. Yes, there was some buzz about cloud in EDA but no one talked about pricing models. In my opinion, the big EDA players are all allergic to the SaaS model and pay-per-use! Dr. MP Divakar

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cyclone08   6/10/2011 6:36:54 PM
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Does anyone know what's going to happen when these devices start pulling data out of the cloud without asking permission? Will they only download on wifi networks, or will there be a lot of surprised cell phone customers?

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bwalker970   6/10/2011 6:29:26 PM
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"and typical of Apple's closed model." The person who wrote that has obviously not used an iOS or MacOS device. MobileMe, Google and Yahoo services are equally available on any iOS or MacOS system namely because all of those services use the same standard internet protocols. It is very easy to subscribe to and edit a Google calendar from the MacOS or iOS iCal applications. What I have not yet discovered is how to subscribe to ,rather than import, a calendar hosted by a non-Google server from my Google account. Now, there's an example of a closed system.

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bwalker970   6/10/2011 6:06:14 PM
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As announced, the base storage of an iCloud account will be 5 GB but music and movies do not count towards that total. The service will be free for iOS 5 and MacOS Lion users but $29 would be more than reasonable and much less than the current offering if it eliminates advertising.

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_hm   6/10/2011 5:24:20 AM
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Some time back, I was informed that Cadence planned to offer high end software online (Cloud Computing?). You select modules you like and you pay as per use. You do not have to purchase licenses. You only need to register and login with them for this usage.

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