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cdhmanning
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cdhmanning   10/28/2011 6:25:39 PM
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If ARM was not there that void would have been filled by MIPS and other low-power technologies - not Intel.

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Code Monkey   10/28/2011 6:24:04 PM
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Clarification: The bean counters pulled the plug. That's the downside of being a publicly traded company. There's a lot of pressure to do what looks good this quarter.

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cdhmanning   10/28/2011 6:23:44 PM
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Intel have dabbled in many different segments and have always ended up dumping everything except their x86 line and associated motherboard lines. Many of their explorations were bought in. eg. They bought the StrongARM stuff from DEC and then sold it to Marvel. I would never design in an Intel FPGA or other part unless it has a second source. Of course you should blame the company as a whole. It is the corporation that decides to buy/let ho whole divisions. It seems many of these decisions to expand or contract are based on the current whims of Wall St.

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gatorfan   10/28/2011 6:11:38 PM
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So they say now. If you subscribe to the disruptive technology headline of tablets and phones introduced by the wave of ARM based products, this may not be true in 5 years.

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Kurt.Peters_#2   10/28/2011 5:57:07 PM
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"merging x86 cores and flash on a chip"... [I think you have that wrong]. They used to have XScale (which I believe is an ARM architecture) and divested themselves of it. I think your quote is wrong, and those "Hermon" and other Flash + logic chips had the ARM-based Xscale chip on them. Regardless, your point is better made by the fact that Intel COULD have had a large market share of ARM processors if they hadn't made that arrogant decision.

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eembedded_janitor   10/28/2011 2:30:16 AM
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Intel is hobbled by the x86. Relative to register rich RISC-like architectures like ARM, register-poor CICS x86 instructions need a lot of clocking to get stuff done. The only way to get x86 speed up is to vastly increase chip and instruction execution complexity. That means lots of transistors end up being clocked every instruction which means a lot of power gets consumed. All up, that means x86 parts are expensive and power hungry relative to ARM parts on any apples-to-apples comparison. High cost and high power is just totally incompatible with mobile space.

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eembedded_janitor   10/28/2011 2:24:17 AM
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"Google’s Android is very much proprietary". Help yoourself here: http://source.android.com/

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Silicon_Smith   10/27/2011 6:59:35 PM
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I agree. It seems to me that Intel has an "all-or-nothing" approach to markets.It has been selling in a huge market for years without any significant competition and this has resulted in complacency vis-a-vis the customers and competition. It keeps wanting customers who rely on it due to its pole and sole position, and small and insignificant competitors. Neither of this would be on offer in the mobile and future computing markets.

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Silicon_Smith   10/27/2011 6:55:04 PM
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Good observation, I just assumed it was the way the IDs were made. But it credits with actual names which should have a space between the first and last name.

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MikeSantarini   10/27/2011 5:08:28 PM
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a bit off topic-- why don't EE Times bylines have a space between your first and last names? It drives me a bit nutty.

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