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The rise and fall of productivity

Ron Collett
10/22/2010 05:40 PM EDT

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RCollett   10/25/2010 6:36:05 PM
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Daleste, I agree completely about the difficulty of getting standards in place. Tough to make happen when consensus is needed -- kind of like trying to get agreement a the United Nations. Lots of posturing, spin and lip service, which of course is not at all surprising. Much easier when a de facto standard arises, typically driven by a company with significant market power that has introduced a technology that demonstrates clear value-add. Thanks for your comment. Ron

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daleste   10/25/2010 4:16:18 PM
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I agree that there needs to be better tools for mixed signal design. The EDA vendors have done a good job on the tools for pure digital design since that is the easier case. The design community has to work with the EDA companies to get tools for analog and mixed signal. The problem is that the standards need to be put in place first so that the tools can benefit everyone. Most companies see their design flow as a strategic advantage so they don't have the desire for standardization.

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RCollett   10/25/2010 4:14:18 PM
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eewiz, You may very well be right, but I don't see more innovation than we've already seen coming out of the EDA industry. The market isn't growing much and the competition in the EDA industry is stiff, which means that the risk-return equation for venture capital funding is out of balance. The consequence is less investment in start-ups. So the innovation must come from larger EDA companies, which is always spotty. Thanks for your comment. Ron

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RCollett   10/25/2010 4:09:23 PM
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Kris, Yes, exactly -- relative productivity continues to decline, whereas absolute productivity continues to rise. It's an inconvenient truth that executive management needs to face. Thanks for your comment. Ron

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eewiz   10/24/2010 3:28:45 PM
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I would argue the main reason for low productivity is the lack if innovation in EDA industry. IC designers have to deal with many point tools by different vendors and some of them dont even work well with others. If you design an analog circuit in once process node, you have completely redesign the circuit & layout to make it work in another process node. Basically I feel the EDA tool should be able to mask all the physical design challenges that come up in lower process nodes from the circuit/logic designers to improve the productivity.

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krisi   10/23/2010 5:37:13 PM
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Ron, the key is the metric here...sure it takes more people to design an IC today, 100+ designers is not unheard of...but each designs lots of transistors or gates, much more than in the past...so in terms of the first metric productivity drops, in terms of the second it increases...Kris

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