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1/29/2014

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The newly arrived, boxed Rigol DS1052E oscilloscope sitting on my desktop.
The newly arrived, boxed Rigol DS1052E oscilloscope sitting on my desktop.

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Geoffrey Legg
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Rigol DS1052E Oscilloscope
Geoffrey Legg   1/29/2014 7:31:08 PM
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I own two Rigol oscilloscopes and have been using them since 2009.  One of them is a 1052D, which has a 16 channel logic analyzer in addition to the standard oscilloscope functions.  The other one is an 1102CA.  They are very nice scopes and good value for the price.  I especially like the displays, which have very wide viewing angle and can be seen from anywhere in the room.  I use the math functions a lot, particularly the FFT and the differential.  The logic analyzer work snicely, but I have only had to use it once, because we do most digital debugging with FPGA tools.  

David Ashton
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Niiiice....
David Ashton   1/29/2014 9:07:31 PM
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Looks like a nice scope Javi - since I have failed to win myself a Tek scope in any of the EETimes competitions, maybe I should get one of these.

Geoffrey Legg commented that "One of them is a 1052D, which has a 16 channel logic analyzer in addition to the standard oscilloscope functions."

In view of the above, mabye the 1052E can be hacked to give you the Logic analyzer functions as well.  You'd probably find the hardware is there and all you need to do is make a hole in the case and maybe install a connector.....  I've seen stranger things......

zeeglen
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Good choice
zeeglen   1/29/2014 11:19:14 PM
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Don't have a Rigol scope, but have never heard any complaints about them.  I do have an Atten pos with many bugs, how I wish the boss had bought me a Rigol instead!

gazelle
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New killer DSO in town - DS1074z - $585 / 450 EU
gazelle   1/30/2014 1:40:04 AM
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After five years they have introduced last summer a new killer DSO - the DS1074z - as a tradition that comes with every low budget Rigol DSO - 4 channel fully hackable 70 - 100MHz, 12 - 24MPts - 1GSa/s and it supports serial bus decoding: UART/I2C/SPI/... - msrp = 450 euro excl. VAT

 

hamster_nz
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Re: Niiiice....
hamster_nz   1/30/2014 3:09:51 AM
I helped somebody out and think I got lucky, and have a Rigol DS1052D on its way to me soon.

If so, it will the first bit of test gear I got that didn't come from Jaycar and cost less than $50. Can't wait to play with it.

Speaking of that IIRC correctly you are in Australia, have you seen the price Jaycar charge for a ATTEN 25MHz scope? NZ$459.

From https://secure1.bluecentral.com/emona/shop/scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=72 you can get a 50MHz DS1052E for $339+GST.

David Ashton
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Re: Niiiice....
David Ashton   1/30/2014 4:34:30 AM
Hi Hamster...that IS lucky.  But it's better to tell people you've been smart :-)

Yes I am in Australia, and I found the Emona site.....$339 is pretty good.  I'd still have to do quite a bit of overtime to get one though :-(

Altronics had sone very good prices on the ATTEN scopes recently, back to normal now:

http://www.altronics.com.au/index.asp?area=srch&search=atten&list=0&pg=4&sort=code

but in a previous post Zeeglen warned us (as below) that they are not too hot.  The Rigol ones seem to get good reviews though..

wnatter
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PCB design at home
wnatter   1/30/2014 8:41:53 AM
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Hi,

What tool would you recommend for PCB design at home?  A friend mentioned Upverter, but I don't know how it compares with the other tools...

Cheers,

William

zeeglen
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Re: PCB design at home
zeeglen   1/30/2014 10:15:45 AM
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@wnatter - you might be interested in this discussion "A Guide to Low Cost PCB Tools"

http://www.eetimes.com/author.asp?section_id=36&doc_id=1319924

Garcia-Lasheras
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Re: Rigol DS1052E Oscilloscope
Garcia-Lasheras   1/30/2014 1:25:07 PM
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@Geoffrey:"I especially like the displays, which have very wide viewing angle and can be seen from anywhere in the room"

I totally agree. I really love the display that Rigol mounts in these low-end scopes. The waveform viewing experience is very similar to the one you get with more expensive units from mainstream brands.

"The logic analyzer works nicely, but I have only had to use it once, because we do most digital debugging with FPGA tools"

I've not used any external logic analyzer in the last 3-4 years!! LOL

   

Garcia-Lasheras
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Re: Niiiice....
Garcia-Lasheras   1/30/2014 1:41:21 PM
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@David: "maybe the 1052E can be hacked to give you the Logic analyzer functions as well.  You'd probably find the hardware is there and all you need to do is make a hole in the case and maybe install a connector....."

I've made a quick web search and I cannot find anything about upgrading to logic analyzer, but the DS1052E plastic case is the same that the used for DS1102D -- under the display, you can see where the logic analyzer port should be.

If I find more information about this hack, I'll give you feedback ;-)

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