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Max The Magnificent
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Spatial Visualization
Max The Magnificent   1/31/2014 12:55:24 PM
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I'm thinking that "Cruella" simply couldn't wrap her brain around vizualizing the syringe being "upside down" (i.e., pointing upwards) -- by comparison, I think I have relatively good spatial and 3D visualizatiobn skills. Do you think this comes with being an engineer (or vice versa), or is it just a case of "some folks have it, and others don't"?

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zeeglen   1/31/2014 1:29:42 PM
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Just imagine if Cruella had been the one with diabetes - she would have definitely qualified for a Darwin Award.

What exactly is her job there?

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18 mL or 1.8 mL or 0.18 mL?
betajet   1/31/2014 1:31:33 PM
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I once had a cat with diabetes, and I used the standard 1.0 mL syringes (or more likely 0.3 mL -- it's been a while) with a typical dose less than 0.1 mL IIRC.  So when I read 18 mL I immediately thought your friend was about to kill her dog with 10X or 100X the prescribed dose.  Kind of like confusing 20% blood alcohol content with 0.20%.


"How sharper than an insulin needle is the sting of a misplaced decimal point."


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Max The Magnificent   1/31/2014 2:01:55 PM
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@zeeglen: What exactly is her job there?

If I ever find out I'll let you know LOL

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Re: 18 mL or 1.8 mL or 0.18 mL?
Max The Magnificent   1/31/2014 2:06:51 PM
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@betajet: I once had a cat with diabetes, and I used the standard 1.0 mL syringes (or more likely 0.3 mL -- it's been a while) with a typical dose less than 0.1 mL IIRC.

Hmmm, now I come to think that 1 liter is 1000ml, I can't believe that the syringe holds 100ml -- maybe it's 10ml or even 1ml (I doubt that "Cruella" will let me look) -- when I come to think about it -- insteal of 18uml, maybe she just said "18 of the divisions on this syringe" -- or maybe she did say "18ml" and I took her at her word without thinking it out -- but she definately meant 18 divisions on the syringe.

Also, it's a honking big dog LOL

 

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Max The Magnificent   1/31/2014 2:08:08 PM
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@betajet: "How sharper than an insulin needle is the sting of a misplaced decimal point."


LOL I know I'm not going to be bending over whenever "Cruella" is in the vicinity :-)

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David Ashton   2/4/2014 2:56:37 PM
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This is such a simple mistake it almost beggars belief.    It raises questions about the quality of the educational system amongst other things.  I also wonder exactly how the vet showed her to fill the syringe.   Like Zeeglen I wonder what job she does, and how she got it......   I also wonder whether you will get an apology ever, because you almost certainly did save the dog's life.   I think "Cruella" is being a bit harsh, "Stupida" would be more fitting.....

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Bert22306   2/4/2014 4:39:58 PM
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I too get impatient when confronted with incomprehensible cluelessness. I know that's a character flaw of mine, but it doesn't seem to change my reaction.

Recently, I was asked where you "plug in" an emergency generator. No, not to feed power to the house mains, but where you plug it in to make it run.

Then, when I explained that there is a gasoline engine that turns the electrical generator, I was asked whether you need to pull a cord to start them? As opposed to just turning a key? Well, it depends whether the generator also requires a battery, and whether that battery is kept charged for months or maybe years between use. The correlation between starting an engine by turning a key, and having to have a battery, was apparently a new revelation.

So, am I surprised that someone can't figure out how to measure the volume of a liquid? That seems way more complicated to me!

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zeeglen   2/4/2014 5:08:35 PM
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@Bert   I too get impatient when confronted with incomprehensible cluelessness

Good example!  And as David said it raises questions about the quality of education for even basic technical knowledge - a couple examples straight from Hollywood:

In the movie "Dolores Claiborne" there is a full moon one evening.  The very next day there is a total solar eclipse.  Duhhh

Remember the old TV series "The 6 Million Dollar Man"?  Even as I kid I got a good laugh when a woman was trying to start her car, the engine cranked healthily but no ignition.  The "hero" opened the hood and using his super strength fixed the problem by tightening the loose battery connector.

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David Ashton   2/4/2014 5:28:48 PM
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@Bert.....similar feelings, and I feel you have to be patient with people like that - no one is perfect (not even me :-) and if you treat people like you would like to be treated, you can't go too far wrong.  I think Max did so in this case, and I guess superheroes can get their satisfaction from a job well done, even if they get no thanks. 

@Zeeglen - I am in awe of people who are so observant they pick up things like your examples.  In this month's caption comp, Betajet picked up that a real die would not have the 3 and the 4 on adjacent sides...  (sigh....there's so much to learn.... :-)

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