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Max The Magnificent
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One of a kind...
Max The Magnificent   2/3/2014 3:40:07 PM
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I don't think 3D printers will ever become as ubiquitous as their 2D counterparts unless they start to be totally "hands-free" as it were -- like if it looked like a microwave oven -- and you placed a part you want to replicate inside and press the "Scan/Copy" button -- then you take that part out, close th edoor, and press the "Print" button.

When it comes to 3D printing at home, this is really useful technology when it comes to replacement items you can't get for existing products -- and also for one-of-a-kind items you want for your own projects.

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Thingmaker vs Vac-u-form
betajet   2/3/2014 4:02:51 PM
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As a replacement for a Mattel Thingmaker or Vac-u-form, 3D printers are very impressive.  More seriously, they are great for making 3D models and replacing missing game pieces.

However, when I need replacement parts it's generally because the old part has worn out or has started to leak.  So it's unlikely that the materials available for current 3D printers are going to be robust enough for something that gets a lot of wear (like a car part or a cane tip or a shoe sole) or have the right sealing properies for plumbing parts.

They also don't provide a good solution for making single-quantity PCBs for projects with high-density SMT components.  And we're pretty far from having a 3-D printer generate custom integrated circuits.

But we're still in the early stages of the technology.

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Re: Thingmaker vs Vac-u-form
Aeroengineer   2/3/2014 9:43:34 PM
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Beta,


You get to the heart of the issue.  These devices neet to either have a dramatic drop in cost to be making such items, or a great increase in versitility to achieve a level of usefulness to the average consumer.

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Aeroengineer   2/3/2014 9:41:41 PM
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Max,

That is an interesting take on it.  How do you see such a workflow developing, and at what stage does the person scan the components?  If it is after they have broke, it would take some real smarts behind the device to make such a system to work.  It is an interesting thought.

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Max The Magnificent   2/5/2014 10:03:10 AM
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@Aeroengineer: If it is after they have broke, it would take some real smarts behind the device to make such a system to work.

That's a good point -- but I think that if you scanned in the multiple parts, it woudl be possible for software to "re-assemble" them -- there's already software to do this with 2D images...

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Aeroengineer   2/5/2014 6:03:01 PM
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You bring up an interesting though, though I still think that it will take a while to get there.  I could see applications for this outside of the consumer market and in the manufacturing market.

 

 

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Think about the 2D printer market
TonyTib   2/3/2014 5:11:14 PM
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Regular printers are cheap and pretty good but many people still use "service bureaus" such as Costco, the local drugstore, and on-line to print photos, and, especially, unusual photo products such as large prints, mugs, canvas prints, metal prints, puzzles, etc.

I'd say a closer match to 3-D printer are photo printers (especially the large ones from Canon, Epson, & HP).  How many people have them?  Only the dedicated photo enthusiasts.  It's similar to other hobbies: how many people own Proxxon rotary tools?

I think it'll be similar with 3-D printing: only the dedicated makers will have 3-D printers, but there will be a lot of room for service companies making customizable stuff using higher end 3D printers. 

Hopefully, the maker market will be large enough to breed innovation and competition -- the market for high end cameras (bascially, all DSLRs and M-ILCs) and photo printers is big enough, and the cost isn't too far off from what a decent 3D printer will probably cost (in the $1000's, not the $100's).

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Re: Think about the 2D printer market
krisi   2/3/2014 5:36:47 PM
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I agree with Tony...there will be some 3-D printer shops and services...but very few people will own them...what for? I fail to see ANY mass market consumer applications of this over-hyphed technology...Kris

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Aeroengineer   2/3/2014 9:49:03 PM
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Kris,

I too agree that there is a lot of hype, but then again, there are a few companies that have been able to hype products so much that people end up purchasing them without ever having a real productive need for them.  Is this the path that 3D printing is on?  I do not think so, I not sure that there is much to draw people down a path like that.  Then again, if Apple got into the industry, anything could happen ;)

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Aeroengineer   2/3/2014 9:46:25 PM
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Tony,

You make an interesting parallel.  In a way, if these devices do not become too popular, they may be able to skirt under some of the legal challenges that could present themselves in the future as there is not enough money in it for the big companies to go after that income stream.

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Re: Think about the 2D printer market
AZskibum   2/4/2014 9:55:57 AM
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"I'd say a closer match to 3-D printer are photo printers (especially the large ones from Canon, Epson, & HP).  How many people have them?  Only the dedicated photo enthusiasts."

This is an excellent analogy. Photo printers have reached a low enough price and ease of use point for them to be ubiquitous. Everyone has or could have the capability to print their own high quality photos at home on real photo paper, but I suspect only a minority actually does so.

And just as with photo printing, 3D printing may become more commonly associated -- for most consumers -- with a service provided by the local drugstore or big box retailer. Upload your files, then come to the store tomorrow to pick up your objects.

 

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Re: Think about the 2D printer market
krisi   2/4/2014 11:18:22 AM
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Yes, most people can own them but very few do...there is just too much hassle in making sure it works (tonner, connectivity etc)...I use 10 years old laser printer (not 3D of course) which works great except it doesn't connect to anything I have at home with the exception of one old PC...this is how industry is forcing printer upgrades...maybe they will attempt to do the same with 3D? "we only have 3D models in stock sir" ;-)...Kris

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Aeroengineer   2/4/2014 5:11:44 PM
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I really like this thought.  I would love to have local Kinkos type stores that provide this service.  I think that there is a lot of room to improve on the current proto services that are offered online.

 

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replacing 2D printer
zewde yeraswork   2/4/2014 11:47:34 AM
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I see some who are especially enthusiastic about this kind of technology adopting it, but for the most part there is no reason to think that 2D printers are going to go away. They are cheap, practical and--as this article points out--easy to use. The difficulty of learning the software and operating the hardware of a 3D printer will be a huge barrier. If Apple or a company that copies Apple gets into this space, that's one thing, but for now I don't see this taking off so much-although the technology itself is more than a little intriguing.

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Aeroengineer   2/4/2014 5:09:53 PM
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Zewde,

 

You bring up an interesting though, could you have a 3D printer that could also do standard 2D printing.  That is an area that I think has yet to really be explored, but I could see this happening.  I can envision a few ways to do it with ink jet technology.

 

Though, back to your point, I also do not see 3D printers taking over for 2D printers, but there are those that think that it will be as prolific as the standard 2D printer.  I agree, though, that there remain significant roadblocks to see anything close to that.

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cnxsoft   2/5/2014 2:06:10 AM
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I guess 3D printers for the consumer market may have to include a 3D scanner.

For example, you want to print a copy of your keys, just put the keys in the machine, press a key, and you've got a copy a few minutes later. Same for other objects.

Printed food may be another application for the consumer market, so you print some fancy chocolate figurine with your kids birthday, and so on.


If manufacturers provide 3D files for user serviceable parts of their device, that would really be a big boost for 3D printer, but I'm not sure this can realistically happen, due to different materials, and legal issues due to IP and potential litigations in case a printed part breaks.

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