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Don't Watch Cosmos With Your Kids – It's Totally Stupid

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BrainiacVI
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COSMOS vs CONNECTIONS
BrainiacVI   3/5/2014 12:04:29 PM
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I found Carl Sagan's COSMOS series to be absolutely glacier after watching James Burke's CONNECTIONS series. Burke covered so much material that repeated viewings were necessary (and just as enjoyable) to pick up on everything he covered. Sagan, on the other hand had me shouting at the TV, "Get to the (bleep)ing point, Carl!" as I tried to watch him set up a single example about selective genetics that seemed to take 15 minutes or more. I know it was less, but Carl managed to make time crawl, whereas James was a firehose of information in the same time.

I'm hoping Neil deGrasse Tyson will not think he has to dumb it down for the slowest kid in the class.

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Re: COSMOS vs CONNECTIONS
Susan Rambo   3/5/2014 12:24:12 PM
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Connections was my favorite show. I agree, Connections over Cosmos.

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Re: COSMOS vs CONNECTIONS
aarunaku   3/5/2014 12:57:07 PM
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I like the reverse psychology, particularly works very well with my kid. On the same lines, how often we see Nobel ceremonies/ Field medal awards, Engineering milestone celebrations as compared to VMA, Oscars, Golden globe, and a million other 2-dimensional world awards.

The culture is completely show business, ironically the latest and the greatest marvels are happening right in front our eyes which we do not recognize it in a grand sense.
Hopefully this program will steer back to cosmic ownership.

Finally CS was classic, I was too young to understand. I am optimistic with Neil from what he has done on propaganda.

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Re: COSMOS vs CONNECTIONS
Caleb Kraft   3/5/2014 4:59:51 PM
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I enjoyed connections as well. My kids just couldn't get into the original Cosmos.

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Re: COSMOS vs CONNECTIONS
Max The Magnificent   3/5/2014 5:37:48 PM
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@Caleb: My kids just couldn't get into the original Cosmos.

It was worth it just to hear Carl saying "Billions and Billions" :-)

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Re: COSMOS vs CONNECTIONS
Caleb Kraft   3/6/2014 11:30:37 AM
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I loved the original. You've got to admit that it is a bit dated for a 10 year old though!

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Re: COSMOS vs CONNECTIONS
AZskibum   3/6/2014 5:33:11 PM
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I much preferred Sagan's books to his TV show, but I will give the new Cosmos a try -- and will hope it doesn't have a catch phrase like "billions and billions." :)

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Re: COSMOS vs CONNECTIONS
Max The Magnificent   3/5/2014 5:36:47 PM
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@BrainiacV1: Burke covered so much material that repeated viewings were necessary (and just as enjoyable) to pick up on everything he covered.

I LOVED Connections -- in fact I have the DVDs of the entire first series here in my office (you can get them from Amazon)

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Re: COSMOS vs CONNECTIONS
BrainiacVI   3/5/2014 9:14:57 PM
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I have Connections 1,2, and 3. I felt he slowed down in the later series (I called it "the Sagan Effect"), possibly feeling he had gone too fast in the earlier series.

I thought his "The Day the Universe Changed" series was excellent as well. Connections dealt with the non-linear development of inventions, TDtUC dealt with our perception of the universe, like the change from Earth centric to heliocentric for the planets. I loved the example he gave of a student saying how dumb people were to believe the sun circled the Earth and the teacher countered with "Imagine what it would have looked like if it had been that way." The point being it would have looked exactly the same. So how we came to sort out reality was important.

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Re: COSMOS vs CONNECTIONS
Max The Magnificent   3/6/2014 11:34:17 AM
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@BrainiacV1: I loved the example he gave of a student saying how dumb people were to believe the sun circled the Earth and the teacher countered with...

Have you read Bill Bryson's "A Brief History of Nearly Everything"? H ediscussed all sorts of thing slike this, such as how the ancients kept on re-evaluating the age of the Earth as they discovered news information -- it's one of my all-time favorite books.

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Re: COSMOS vs CONNECTIONS
BrainiacVI   3/6/2014 11:55:40 AM
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I haven't read "A Brief History of Nearly Everything" yet, I've glanced at it in the book stores, but it has been on my list.

His "A Walk in the Woods" was hysterical. If you haven't read his adventure walking the AppalachianTrail, you will enjoy it.

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Re: COSMOS vs CONNECTIONS
Max The Magnificent   3/6/2014 12:05:34 PM
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@BrainiacVI: If you haven't read his adventure walking the AppalachianTrail, you will enjoy it.

I think I've read just about all of his stuff -- I love the "Letters from a Small Island" about his time in England, and his "Sunburned Country" about his visits to Australia. Also his "I'm a Stranger Here Myself" and his othe rbooks about returning to America.

Also, have you read his "Shakespeare – The World as Stage"? If not, check out my review.

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Let Disney make it more interesting
_hm   3/5/2014 6:29:05 PM
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Better way may be to propose Disney to make theme park and 3D movie. Kids will start loving it.

 

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Apple pie
RichQ   3/5/2014 8:16:53 PM
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The one enduring image I have of Cosmos was Sagan sitting in a dining hall at Cambridge University, having a very fancy pie delivered, cutting into it, and intoning "If you want to make an apple pie from scratch you have to invent the universe."

Oh yes, and the oft-repeated "Billions and Billions."

Hopefully Tyson will be better able to capture this short attention span generation.

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Caleb Kraft   3/6/2014 11:31:32 AM
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Yeah, I love sagan, but he's kind of like a creepy willy wonka of science in that show!

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maclag   3/6/2014 2:46:22 AM
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Option3: Evil Plan

Part1: Purposely get the show's name wrong. It's not "Cosmos presented by Neil de Grasse Tyson", it's "well, can't remember, Tyson vs the Universe or something like that?" and let them (mis-)guess it has something to do with Mike Tyson destroying something/someone in a blood bath.

Part2: Once in front of the TV, miss the generic and put them directly in front of the show. "Oh crap! We couldn't hear the introduction. I don't know when we'll get to see the interesting part. Let's just wait for it to come!". Now your kids are paying attention.

Part3: "What? Mike Tyson? No idea. Maybe next week?"

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COSMOS: The Next Generation
BrainiacVI   3/10/2014 11:07:02 AM
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Well, I'm happy to say it wasn't too shabby. The pace wasn't bad at all. Looking forward to seeing the rest.

I was glad to see they tackled religion head on. It seems we're in one of those "science is just another belief system and religion is equally valid" phases in our culture. Maybe this will enlighten a few impressionable minds.

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Caleb Kraft   3/10/2014 11:08:49 AM
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I haven't seen it yet. I'm eagerly anticipating the opportunity!

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