Breaking News
Blog

Fully Autonomous Car? Don't Buy Shotgun Yet

View Comments: Newest First | Oldest First | Threaded View
<<   <   Page 2 / 3   >   >>
Allan McAuslin
User Rank
Rookie
Robust, Safe ADAS Systems
Allan McAuslin   5/7/2014 11:31:44 AM
NO RATINGS
As the article points out there are societal, legislative and liability hurdles to overcome. It's difficult for the car makers to predict if and when (and by what measure) they are able to jump over these hurdles. But from the technical implementation perspective there are some known hurdles. Specifically when we talk about ADAS systems taking control of the car dynamics, be it braking, steering, whatever. As the IHS contributor mentioned there are many components inside these ADAS systems: Microprocessors, FPGA's, DSP's, memories and so on. If the ADAS system is to really take control of the car, then the components used in the decision making need to be robust enough to guarantee operation over the life of the car. Similarly there needs to be built in redundancy to ensure that should a component fail, it does so in a safe way (so called graceful degradation of vehicle functionality). The functional safety standard for automotive systems is called ISO26262 and so far not too many ADAS processors are capable of being assesed against this standard. nor are they typically robust enough to guarantee operation over life for an automobile. So the component manufacturers and tier 1 integrators have some work to do in order to deliver truely fail safe systems for semi autonomous cars. I think this is the first challenge facing the industry.

Sheetal.Pandey
User Rank
Manager
Re: Package Delivery
Sheetal.Pandey   5/7/2014 6:20:56 AM
NO RATINGS
It may be slightly early to start using autonomous cars but thats the future going to be. Anything that a we are highly dependant on like our phone, automobile or home its going to be very very smart in future.

junko.yoshida
User Rank
Blogger
Re: Package Delivery
junko.yoshida   5/6/2014 5:58:12 PM
NO RATINGS
@Wnderer, man, I thought drones are bad enough, but now autonomous cars for delivery? I had never thought of it before, but it is possible, isn't it?

junko.yoshida
User Rank
Blogger
Re: unwritten rules
junko.yoshida   5/6/2014 5:56:23 PM
NO RATINGS
@betajet, yes, 101 is pretty bad...but then, driving 880 was always my biggest fear when I used to live in the Bay Area. (Of course, that's across the bay from Mountain View). 

But I agree. The ultimate driving test is definitely Boston!

betajet
User Rank
CEO
Re: unwritten rules
betajet   5/6/2014 5:49:09 PM
NO RATINGS
junko.yoshida wrote: ... there are just so many more cities they need to "master"!

Mountain View is a decent place to start, especially at non-rush hour.  But at some point they need to try out the "Bloody Bayshore" AKA US 101.  We'll see if they're able to survive that one any better than the human drivers.

Then the ultimate USA test: Boston :-)

Loser99
User Rank
Freelancer
Re: Package Delivery
Loser99   5/6/2014 5:45:44 PM
NO RATINGS
Great, until it kills somebody because of a .25 cent part.

Wnderer
User Rank
CEO
Package Delivery
Wnderer   5/6/2014 5:32:53 PM
NO RATINGS
The future of autonomous vehicles is package delivery. Think UPS or Pizza Hut. Here's a vehicle with no passengers. Only drives local roads in predefined routes at less than 30 mph. Couple it with a drone to drop the package on your doorstep. The drone only has to carry a small weight a short distance before returning to a charging station on the vehicle. It's a totally automated delivery system.

junko.yoshida
User Rank
Blogger
Re: Define autonomous driving
junko.yoshida   5/6/2014 5:27:24 PM
NO RATINGS
Totatlly, agree, Bert. 

And that's part of the reason why I thought I might as well spell that out in this blog -- although it probably was obvious to many of you...

junko.yoshida
User Rank
Blogger
Re: unwritten rules
junko.yoshida   5/6/2014 5:24:34 PM
NO RATINGS
This thread of discussions on unwritten rules actually proves the point why Google is doing driving testing one city at a time. They are now focused on driving Mountain View, Calif., but there are just so many more cities they need to "master"!

Loser99
User Rank
Freelancer
Re: Insurance class action?
Loser99   5/6/2014 5:18:57 PM
NO RATINGS
Toyota couldn't even get a gas pedal right.

Think the other car companies will risk going bankrupt from lawsuits too?

These things are not even proven in snow/ice/white out conditions.

 

<<   <   Page 2 / 3   >   >>
August Cartoon Caption Winner!
August Cartoon Caption Winner!
"All the King's horses and all the KIng's men gave up on Humpty, so they handed the problem off to Engineering."
5 comments
Top Comments of the Week
Like Us on Facebook

Datasheets.com Parts Search

185 million searchable parts
(please enter a part number or hit search to begin)
EE Times on Twitter
EE Times Twitter Feed
Flash Poll
Radio
NEXT UPCOMING BROADCAST
How to Cope with a Burpy Comet
October 17, 2pm EDT Friday
EE Times Editorial Director Karen Field interviews Andrea Accomazzo, Flight Director for the Rosetta Spacecraft.