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Etmax
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Re: Some wrong premises
Etmax   7/22/2014 7:55:58 AM
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@kfield :-) you're in good company :-) (well at least I think you are :-))

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Re: Some wrong premises
Etmax   7/22/2014 6:16:53 AM
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If that ever happened I would walk into the shop with my phone off, or choose a different store.

Currently all of the bigger stores have rolled out self checkouts, and I refuse to use them even if it means a long wait. The only exception I make is if a store staff member does it for me. I just act dumb. I refuse to participate in the dismantling of what is traditionally the entry into the work place of countless teens.

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Douglas442   7/21/2014 9:42:56 PM
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Etmax said: "Somebody tried to patent the plot to a movie a few years back... Le Lift sounds like a good reason why it shouldn't be possible :-)"

Just as there are a lot of Things which, though technologically possible, shouldn't be done because our modern-day drive toward the rampant commercial exploitation of ideas will likely or inevitably render them... "utterly ludicrous".

So, then... imagine that you are at a shopping-mall for the sole purpose of buying some replacement light-bulbs ( "smart" LED-bulbs, of course! ) for your "smart-home" which is still unable to go out and do it's own shopping ( but which is banking on Amazon's Smart-Drone delivery system to bypass this situtaion! ).

You go through the door, or get on the elevator ( or escalator ), all of which immediately detect your presence via your smart-phone. The elevator closes the doors, looks up the records of all your buying habits ( among other things )... AND THEN... the "Sales-Pitch" subroutines kick in! Trapped in a small enclosed space, you must now listen to an array of personally-directed options... and what was once a simple task now becomes a complex array of choices that make you feel personally compelled to decide and act upon. 

This may be an ad-man's or a salesman's dream-come-true!... but, for me, it's a nightmare scenario.

Adams, among others, was well ahead of his time in foreseeing this, and so I can only say (... jokingly, of course... and I quote, paraphrasing in my best cockney accent ):

"BRING OUT your "Intelligent" telephones, your "Smart" dishwashers, your "Brainy" blenders!!!... Shove'em onto the cart!"


 

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Re: Some wrong premises
kfield   7/21/2014 9:30:34 PM
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@etmax "
Somebody tried to patent the plot to a movie a few years back, i don't know if they managed but Le Lift sounds like a good reason why it shouldn't be possible :-)"

Well it certainly solidified my reputation of a person simply unable to pick out movies without some kind of lame plot. A murderous elevator? Geez, what was I thinking??

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Re: Some wrong premises
Etmax   7/21/2014 8:28:39 PM
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Somebody tried to patent the plot to a movie a few years back, i don't know if they managed but Le Lift sounds like a good reason why it shouldn't be possible :-)

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Re: Some wrong premises
Douglas442   7/21/2014 6:57:52 PM
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...

kfield said: "Sounds a lot like the plot of "Le Lift," a Dutch movie I rented a few years back about a smart elevator."

Which, of course, harkens back to Douglas Adams who, in the second-half of the original "The HitchHikers Guide to the Galaxy" radio-series ( circa 1978 ), provides a subplot-line in which Zaphod Beeblebrox is at the central-offices of MegaDodo Publications. He urgently has to take the elevator to go upstairs in order to find someone, who he's never met before, for reasons he's consciously totally unaware of.

He ends up having to have a philosophical discussion with the "Intelligent" Elevator, instead:

Elevator: " I GO UP, AND I GO DOWN."

Zaphod: "I want to go up."

Elevator: "DOWN IS VERY NICE!"

Zaphod: "Yeah? Up! Please."

Elevator: "HAVE YOU STOPPED TO CONSIDER ALL OF THE POSSIBILITIES THAT 'DOWN' MIGHT HAVE TO OFFER?"

... and so on.

Of course, the segment concludes by telling of a wily inventor who thereafter re-discovers and obtains a patent for an amazing device known as a "staircase".

 

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Re: Some wrong premises
kfield   7/21/2014 5:31:52 PM
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@etmax  "I saw an HBO movie about a guy who wired his computer up so it operate door locks and turn lights on and dial up services etc. and it turned out it was a female computer (well program of course) and it began to order in all these upgrades getting technicians out etc. and then ended up locking him in and trying to bump off his girl friend as it was jealous"

Sounds a lot like the plot of "Le Lift," a Dutch movie I rented a few years back about a smart elevator. The murderous contraption ended up taking one too many occupants for "a ride," and a intrepid elevator repairman eventually figured it out and saved the day.

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resistion   7/19/2014 9:29:40 PM
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I see, so there might be popular confusion between making smart appliances smarter and having them connected to the internet. IoT is about the latter, but the former is really the technology opportunity.

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Re: Some wrong premises
Etmax   7/19/2014 6:52:20 AM
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Bert, when I was in Singapore a few years ago I saw an HBO movie about a guy who wired his computer up so it operate door locks and turn lights on and dial up services etc. and it turned out it was a female computer (well program of course) and it began to order in all these upgrades getting technicians out etc. and then ended up locking him in and trying to bump off his girl friend as it was jealous. I never saw the end because I had to go to a meeting but after watching that, IDIOT seems like the perfect manner in which an ex could make your life hell :-)

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