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bk11
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Re: Why not self washing cars?
bk11   7/15/2014 1:25:25 PM
I love my dish washer, but I hate putting dishes away from my dish washer.

This one is easy to solve.  remove some cabinets and install another diswasher or two.  Leave the clean dishes in the dishwasher until you're ready to use them, then load the dirty ones in another washer.  When that one gets full of dirty dishes, run it and use another washer for dirty dishes!

Doesn't work so well for clothes, though.

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Re: Great question!
C VanDorne   7/15/2014 10:27:37 AM
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I used "sovreignty" over "security" because I think the concept should be elevated to mean more than just securing data from one point to another.  I'm not sure how that would shake out but if IoT doesn't mean more control for me and less control for them ("them being any range of outside interests), then I'm probably not interested, and I would probably be a very reluctant IoT customer.

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Re: Great question!
junko.yoshida   7/15/2014 10:07:34 AM
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Thank you, VanDorne. Good one! Yes, let's advance our conversation. You wrote:   BUT (a Sir Mixolot sized one, if you will) not before we figure out the sovreignty angle. How do you define "sovreignty"?

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Re: Forest from the trees
junko.yoshida   7/15/2014 10:01:39 AM
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Rick, you and I covered over the years a lot of technolgy ideas that either took really a long time or never actually took place in a commercial market. I am not saying IoT won't happen. On the contrary, it is already happening. Asking the question average joe or jane would ask never hurts. We -- designers, builders of technology, and us reporters included -- shouldn't always be willing partners of tech hype.

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Great question!
C VanDorne   7/15/2014 9:52:20 AM
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I'm chiming in late but I just wanted to congratulate Junko for asking a very needed question, at a good time and in the perfect forum for it to be asked.  I mostly side with the cynics, especially given the thirst of today's governments that are seemingly always looking for another angle to control us, or the many nefarious private interest ranging from perpetual marketers like Google and Facebook to zit-ridden teenage hackers.  I need all their input like Junko needs her washer and grill to be dating.

But weighing against that is the fear of being lumped in with other epic failures of vision like  the luddite East Coast Xerox managers who poopooed the concept of the home PC after hearing those pitches from their PARC counterparts.

So my compromise would go something like this: Let's build it so they shall come - who knows what it'll bring us so why not defer to the capitalists and innovators who have historically shown a knack for figuring out how to make life better while making a buck?  BUT (a Sir Mixolot sized one, if you will) not before we figure out the sovreignty angle.

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Re: Some wrong premises
junko.yoshida   7/15/2014 9:48:55 AM
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@Tim, thanks for the link! Love it!

Tim R Johnson
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Re: Some wrong premises
Tim R Johnson   7/15/2014 2:10:46 AM
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Don't forget the classic 1954 loney tunes short "Design for Leaving" in which Daffy Duck tries to sell modern push-button home products to Elmer Fudd. 

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1793b_elmer-fudd-design-for-leaving_shortfilms

Remember never to push the WED one!

 

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Replace your applicances today
resistion   7/15/2014 1:14:50 AM
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Given that there are no plug-in slots for IoT for the overwhelming majority of appliances today, a lot of replacement would have to happen for IoT to be adopted en masse. So don't expect it to happen overnight.

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Re: Forest from the trees
Sheetal.Pandey   7/15/2014 12:34:31 AM
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Wow looks like a hot debate! Whether we like it or not, certain things that looks impossible or nont needed now wil become essential commodity tommorrow. Who knew 15 years from now that smartphones will take over the market in such a way that you cannot live without them. Android will become such a important accessory. Things talking to each other is the future and its going to arrive. The house or even the office with just things will become a live place where actions and decisions will go on.

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Forest from the trees
rick merritt   7/14/2014 9:53:26 PM
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This is a great question, Junko. One that's been needing to be asked.

I have been covering different ways to connect IoT devices so long I neglected to challenge the conventional wisdom that its even necessary.

A similar phenomenon happened in the last wave of hype with the smart grid. Few thought to ask why anyone would want to spend the time and money to shave their electric bills which in most cases were not even a big concern for the average Joe or Jane.

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