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Creating an 8x8x8 3D LED Cube: Straightening the Wire

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Clive
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Love the video
Clive "Max" Maxfield   8/6/2014 11:17:09 AM
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@Steve: I love the video -- it makes everything so clear. I also love the simple jigs you create. I'm very much looking forward to the next blog whch will look at the various jigs and the assembly process in more detail.

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Steve Manley   8/6/2014 11:48:41 AM
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@Max:  I love the video -- it makes everything so clear. I also love the simple jigs you create. I'm very much looking forward to the next blog whch will look at the various jigs and the assembly process in more detail.

Thanks for the feedback. I'm looking forward to the posting as well, I think the construction of the cube should become clearer.

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A bit of a twist
Clive "Max" Maxfield   8/6/2014 11:18:20 AM
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@Steve: With regard to straightening the wire, I understand what you are doing and why you are doing it, but I have two questions about the "twists" in the wire:


1) Are the twists visible and do they detract from the overall feel in the final cube?

2) You start with 20WG wire -- what's the SWG value after you've stretched and twisted it?

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Steve Manley   8/6/2014 12:00:01 PM
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@Max: 1) Are the twists visible and do they detract from the overall feel in the final cube?

Yes a darker grey spiral can be seen but only close up and is more visible if you look down the length of the wire. Looking at a panel from a couple of feet away I cant see the spirals so no it doesn't detract from the overall feel.

2) You start with 20WG wire -- what's the SWG value after you've stretched and twisted it?

SWG means Standard Wire Gauge which defines the wires diameter. I believe the American and UK standards are slightly different. The larger the SWG number is the smaller the wire diameter and after twisting the 20SWG wire I would guess it's nearer 21SWG.

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Max The Magnificent   8/6/2014 12:05:35 PM
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@Steve: SWG means Standard Wire Gauge which defines the wire's diameter.

As you know, I'm from the UK, so I didn't even think about your reference to SWG in your blog -- but in the past I have run into the fact that no one here in the USA seems to know what it means. Over here, the little scamps use AWG (American Wire Gauge) -- it's so cute when they try to re-invent something and stick the word "American" in front of it as though to imply that their wire gauge is better than anyone elses LOL

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Steve Manley   8/6/2014 12:12:16 PM
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@Max: t's so cute when they try to re-invent something and stick the word "American" in front of it as though to imply that their wire gauge is better than anyone elses

LOL

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Dan_e   8/7/2014 3:14:56 PM
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@Steve - you must be living under a rock if you have never heard of AWG, and really isn't anything implied by calling it so, other than it is the standard the US. LOL- leave it to the pompus Brits to think yours the "Standard Wire Gauge"!  

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Dan_e   8/7/2014 3:18:01 PM
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oops - correction it was Max's comment that I was referring to, but I guess it was Steve who didn't seem to understand what AWG was.  

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Max The Magnificent   8/7/2014 3:37:15 PM
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@Dan_e: oops - correction it was Max's comment that I was referring to, but I guess it was Steve who didn't seem to understand what AWG was.

Actually, Steve never said he didn't know what AWG was, all he did say was "I believe the American and UK standards are slightly different."

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Max The Magnificent   8/7/2014 3:44:14 PM
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@Dan_e: ...leave it to the pompus Brits to think yours the "Standard Wire Gauge"

Leave it to the Americans to have a sporting event called "The World Series" to which they are pretty much the only contestants. "Oooh, an American baseball team won the World Series ... again!" LOL

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antedeluvian   8/7/2014 4:17:18 PM
Max

Leave it to the Americans to have a sporting event called "The World Series" to which they are pretty much the only contestants. "Oooh, an American baseball team won the World Series ... again

I was about to point out that the series was named for the sponsor the New York World newsapaper, a story I have heard quiet a few times and in turn have propogated it myself. Turns out that story is an urban myth and you are right.

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Max The Magnificent   8/7/2014 4:40:58 PM
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@antedeluvian: I was about to point out that the series was named for the sponsor the New York World newsapaper, a story I have heard quiet a few times and in turn have propogated it myself...

    I've heard that tale also, but I also head it was a myth

Turns out that story is an urban myth and you are right.

   Don't sound so surprised LOL

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Dan_e   8/7/2014 5:27:55 PM
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@Max . you wrote ""Over here, the little scamps use AWG (American Wire Gauge) -- it's so cute when they try to re-invent something and stick the word "American" in front of it as though to imply that their wire gauge is better than anyone elses LOL"

I don't us "little scamps" had any intention of implying that sticking "American" in the front of "Wire Gauge"made our wire gauge "better than anyone elses", but thanks for the compliment. You bloody Brits never seem to miss the chance to stick "Royal" in front of something, with the apparent thought that makes that something more regal - LOL

Maybe it the future you keeping your silly comments of various cultures and failed rebuttles on points of them (both AWG and the World Series) out of what should be a discussion of electronics (and which I admit typically find pretty entertaining).

 

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Max The Magnificent   8/7/2014 5:29:18 PM
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@Dan_e: You bloody Brits never seem to miss the chance to stick "Royal" in front of something, with the apparent thought that makes that something more regal - LOL

Well it does, doesn't it?

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Max The Magnificent   8/7/2014 5:32:21 PM
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@Dan_e: ...your silly comments of various cultures...

Fortunately, I'm happy to say that the thought of responding "American + Culture = Oxymoron" never crossed my mind. I prefer to take the higher ground and think only nice thoughts LOL

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MeasurementBlues   8/13/2014 5:20:59 PM
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"You bloody Brits never seem to miss the chance to stick "Royal" in front of something, with the apparent thought that makes that something more regal"

As in "Royal pain"

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MeasurementBlues   8/13/2014 5:18:47 PM
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I do recall a Canadian team winning the series.

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Wnderer   8/7/2014 7:27:32 PM
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@Max Over here, the little scamps use AWG (American Wire Gauge)


AWG came before SWG. Originally there was the Birmingham Wire Gauge which was kind of arbitrary. An American company called Brown and Sharpe created a wire gauge with a real exponential decay and a base of 0.89 in 1855. It was called the Brown and Sharpe wire gauge. The British then had to 'save the gauge as an example of British Quality' which led to something called the 'Battle of the Gauges' which ended when in 1883, Queen Victoria signed an Order in Council creating the British or Board of Trade Standard Wire Gauge, after which the Brown and Sharpe Wire Gauge started to be called the American Wire Gauge.

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Max The Magnificent   8/11/2014 12:41:42 PM
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@Wnderer: AWG came before SWG.

I was sort of hoping no one would bring that up LOL

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Duane Benson   8/13/2014 7:22:14 PM
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Reminds me a bit of machine bolts on the old MG I once had. In my education process, I learned about SAE, metric and Whitworth. Then there were metric bolts with Whitworth heads or something like that.

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antedeluvian   8/6/2014 11:20:38 AM
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Fascinating. I described the same technique to twist two wires together in my blog "Top 17 Helpful Hints for Constructing Electronic Systems"

You seem to have a second chuck mounted on the drill. What part do you use?

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Clive "Max" Maxfield   8/6/2014 11:43:14 AM
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@Antedeluvian: I described the same technique to twist two wires together in my blog "Top 17 Helpful Hints for Constructing Electronic Systems"

As soon as I saw Steve's video I had a flashback to your blog:-)

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Steve Manley   8/6/2014 12:03:23 PM
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@Snap: You seem to have a second chuck mounted on the drill. What part do you use?

The chuck on my drill wont grasp the wire tight enough so I use the smaller modlers chuck held firm in the drill chuck. this smaller chuck grasps the wire much more reliably.

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Steve Manley   8/6/2014 12:06:04 PM
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Sorry my last post should have been @antedeluvian not Snap.

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My 4 X 4 X 4 cube
nexusone1984   8/6/2014 4:02:29 PM
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Just thouht I share my own project

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcEABiIn0Og&list=UU4bP6i5kyXhXE-N6W27F_Mg

Eric

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Steve Manley   8/6/2014 5:06:51 PM
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@Nexusone1984: Just thought I share my own project.

Thanks for sharing this Eric; your cube looks really cool. At least you have a cube, mine is still under construction, so a bit of envey on my part lol.

Here is a link to a test of my 8x8 RGB panels soon to become a cube: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnyQ9YnKcTw

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Max The Magnificent   8/7/2014 2:35:44 PM
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@Steve: Here is a link to a test of my 8x8 RGB panels soon to become a cube: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnyQ9YnKcTw

This is looking VERY TASTY!!!

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