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Max The Magnificent
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An intuitive GUI woudl be tasty
Max The Magnificent   8/21/2014 2:21:06 PM
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@Charles: I'm thinking that if you did this via a Kickstarter project, you could raise the money to create an intuitive and easy-to-use design feature on your website.

Here's the way it could go. First, the user enters the outer dimensions of the cabinet they want to create (the used can specify units of inches or mm/cm).

Taking the dimensions of the extrusions into account, the system uses the user-provided dimensions to automatically create the outlines/templates for the top, bottom, side, and end panels.

In the case of expert users with access to 3D mechanical CAD packages, these users could take the generated panels and modify them to their heart's content.
In the case of novice/hobby users, you could provide a drag-and-drop feature to create holes in the panels -- you could have circles, ellipses, rectangles, rectangles with rounded corners, etc. After dragging one onto a panel, the user could specify dimensions (e.g., D diameter, W wide, T tall, etc.; also X-Y offsets from the lower-left corner of the panel. You could also provide cut/copy/paste type facilities -- also shapes for common connectors and suchlike. Maybe do something similar for the silkscreen/annotations... Just a thought...

mhrackin
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Re: An intuitive GUI woudl be tasty
mhrackin   8/21/2014 2:36:55 PM
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I'm pretty sure that a very similar design is commercially available (at least all of the structural elements, not including customization).  I have several "test benches" (actually simulators) built using COTS extrusions etc. The supplier is almost certainly German so the stuff might be quite a bit pricier than your projections.  I'll try to get a photo or two that show the structure without revealing any proprietary info of the test benches proper. 

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Re: An intuitive GUI woudl be tasty
mhrackin   8/21/2014 2:59:44 PM
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Here's a link to the supplier I mentioned:  http://www.maytec.org/mainframe_e.htm

German as I expected, ergo NOT inexpensive. I have pictures but having a problem posting.

 

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Not sure if this is original
antedeluvian   8/21/2014 3:48:49 PM
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Charles

I am not sure if what you are offering is the low cost machining of the housing or the housing itself.

If it is the housing then I am afraid I am going to rain on your parade. There is at least one manufacturer of simlar housings (and they offer machining as well) Rose Bopla. Here is their offerening in extrusions. It seems that the BOS Ecoline is similar to what you are proposing, if I understand you correctly. One range had endplates that allowed for an octal relay base.

Some years ago we produced a "bulletproof" switchmode power supply in a one piece extrusion which made for easy IP rating (except for the end plates). Have you considered whether this is a market you want to support.

We also had a customer who designer an "L" shaped extrusion which when one side was flipped gave you the rectangular cross section. It was held together with the endplates which were in fact heavy duty connectors like these shells and a sutiable multipin insert.

In all of these however, I have found debugging when the unit is inside any extruded housing to be difficult to say the least.

cfsateet
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Re: Not sure if this is original
cfsateet   8/21/2014 5:07:14 PM
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Antedeluvian

I am trying to solve custom maching of the housing, total cost (except NRE) and turn around time.  I am trying to address prototype designs where you just need one maybe three.  

Everytime I have looked at the extrusions you mentioned I find minimum and stocking issues.  In addition, the ones that you provided a link to appear to still need a front panel machined at a minimum.  If you need any additional holes cut into the side panels for a one-off I imagine the cost are significant.  If you do not need holes in the cabinet for connectors etc. then off the shelf cabinets seem like the obvious low cost option.  I always seem to need holes in my cabinets.

The housing is not extruded just the corners.  It alows making cabinets as small as 1.5"x1.5"x1.5" to rack mount monsters using the same corner extrusions.  You just cut the six side panels to the dimensions needed.  The extruded housings you mentioned are usually restricted in one or two dimensions.  

This design also solves the debugging problem. You can remove as many sides as you need if you mounted your PCB to the base using standoffs.  I feel it is a very flexible system.  

Charles

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Re: An intuitive GUI woudl be tasty
cfsateet   8/21/2014 5:16:41 PM
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mhrackin,

I looked everywhere for extrusions like the ones shown in my sketch.  Could not find them.  The closest are used for making glass display cases.  They only work with panels 1/8" or thicker.  I have looked through Maytec's catalogues for other projects.  I associate them with alternatives to 80/20.  I did not know they had an extrusion that could accomodate a 0.050" think panel without some kind of spacer. If they have something similar to the one I propose could you provide a part number or link?  The extrusion that I propose costs from $0.80 to $4.00 per foot depending on how much you order from a US extruder.  Anodizing is extra of course.

Charles

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Re: An intuitive GUI woudl be tasty
cfsateet   8/21/2014 5:29:20 PM
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Max,

Thank you for sharing my idea.

Really like the GUI idea.  Coding up a panel generator based on overall cabinet seems straightforward.  However, dxf file format scares me.  The examples I have looked at show lots of dendrite.  Do not know what is important for reliability/compatibility.  Cadenas Part Solutions? DesignSpark?

Charles

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Re: An intuitive GUI woudl be tasty
mhrackin   8/21/2014 5:34:38 PM
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I'm not an expert on these parts; I just Googled Maytec today based on the name on one of the plastic corner plugs on my bench and looked at a couple of part numbers.  There is a "part chooser" app on their site, and also a US$ price lst.  I was surprised at the relatively low cost for these German parts.  The small cross-section extrusions comparable to yours (and used on my benches) run between US$5 to 10 per METER in unit quantities.  I have seen similar stuff from several suppliers in the past, and in fact have a mid-size portable equipment chassis in my basement that bears a very strong resemblance to your sketch.  I bought it surplus many years ago for a few $.

Nicholas.Lee
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Nicholas.Lee   8/22/2014 4:11:09 AM
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My 'local' european PCB company provides a front-panel manufacturing service:

https://www.panel-pool.com/fpuk/index.html

 

They are fully laser cut and screen printed at very reasonable cost.

 

These would be a good complement for these modular boxes.

cfsateet
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Re: An intuitive GUI woudl be tasty
cfsateet   8/28/2014 7:15:50 PM
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I tried to post an image that compares the extrusions that you mentioned plus another with what I am proposing.  I cannot seem to be able to place it in this reply but I have placed it on postimg.org for others to see.

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I can see making the MayTec parts work, but they seem a compromise.  One costs significantly more because it requires a machining operation.  The other still seems more expensive than what I propose (~$3.90/ft).  They are made and stocked in the US.

Charles

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