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2/10/2016 00:07 AM EST

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David Ashton
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Re: What? No electronics?
David Ashton   3/31/2016 10:41:31 PM
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Martin....snow in April??  But I presume it'll melt off pretty quickly...

We are heading INTO winter here....chilly evenings (7 degrees C, probably pretty balmy for you).  But we should have frosts before too long, and sometimes minus 5 mornings...

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Re: What? No electronics?
MeasurementBlues   3/31/2016 12:12:06 PM
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@David,

Temperature is 20°C today. Flowers are blooming and allergies are blooming too. We're expecting a little snow in two more days.

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Re: What? No electronics?
David Ashton   2/11/2016 3:05:33 PM
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@Martin...well (I had to look this up :-) a hockey puck is 1 inch thick and 3 in diameter.  It should be easy enoguh to desgn a mechanism to enable a drone to carry and release it.  The release mechanism would be the tricky part, needing electronics to send and receive the command and actuate the release.  Or maybe you could organise for it to be released if the carrier touches a hard surface.  Possibilities.....

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MeasurementBlues   2/11/2016 12:28:56 PM
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@David,

sounds like all you need to do is get one of Susan's drones to position your Roof Melt pucks

I tried to hrow one out there this morning. I bounced off the crusted snow and off the roof. I recovered it and placed it on a rain gutter using a stick.

There's one area on the roof that I can't reach and an ice dam has formed. I contacted the roofer, figuring he already has some of my money, to come an remove it. Waiting for a reply.

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elizabethsimon   2/11/2016 12:03:32 PM
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I could have used to learn about Roof Melt a few years ago when I had a house with valleys on the north side of the roof that tended to fill with ice in the winter. My current house has an uncomplicated roofline with no valleys so I usually only have to deal with the area around the gutters. I did get a roof rake a few years ago to clear some of the snow off an area that's not as steeply pitched as the rest.

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David Ashton   2/10/2016 11:09:03 PM
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@Martin....well sounds like all you need to do is get one of Susan's drones to position your Roof Melt pucks where you want them and you'll have no more problems!

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MeasurementBlues   2/10/2016 10:49:35 PM
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@David,

There's also a product called Roof Melt. It's tub that holds about 40 pieces of ice-melt, each about the size of a hockey puck. (You probably dont know what that is living on 32°C weather.)

The direction s say to throw the pucks onto the roof. But, I found that if the snow is already ice or even crusty, the pucks just bounce off and fall to the ground where they get lost in the snow there. That's there the other end of the stick comes in. I place the puck on the end ong the stick and gently place it where I want. The extreme front and back ends of the roof are inaccessible except with a tall ladder, too high for me to climb so I do what I can out the dormer windows. The sticks help a lot.

Once I heard about Roof Melt last year, I set out to find some. Impossible. Everyone was sold out. I was able to get a bucket by pre-paying for them at a local hardware store and pick them up the next day. I then ordered another bucket online (paid a fortune for shipping), though I still have about 10 left from the original bucket.



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MeasurementBlues   2/10/2016 10:39:03 PM
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@David,

Ice-melt pellets (sometimes call rock salt) are some choride compound that lowers the freezing point of ice that it comes in contact with. You buy it by the bag in amounts from, say 2 kg to 20 kg (actually 5 lbs to 50 lbs). The pellets are roughly the side of chocolate chips.

For many years, we used plain salt pellets, as in NaCl. But, salt eats cars and just about everything else. So, you can get calcium chloride. It costs more but does less damage to cars and concrete. Roads are salted too. That's why you don;t see many old cars around here like you do in warmer climates. The cars rust out.



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MeasurementBlues   2/10/2016 10:32:06 PM
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Antedeluvian,

Actually, I only used a pair of white tube socks the first time. Women's stockings or nylons (depending one where you grew up) work better. I asked my wife to keep them all through the past year. Now, the supply is essentially limitless. I use a trowel (not the one on the stick) to fill the stocking, then tie it. If the stocking has a hole in the toe, I cut it off and tie what's left.

The stockings will stick to the ice, and stick rather well. But, they do melt the ice. I saw a video that one should place the stocking in line with the water flow so as the ice melts, you create a channel for water to flow down into the rain gutter.

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What about the socks?
antedeluvian   2/10/2016 7:24:04 PM
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Never mind the pellets, what about the socks? How porous must they be, and will wool perish? Given my penchant for brightly coloured socks, I don't think I could part with them to expire in a gutter. I would have to buy a new pair.

Mind you they are so bright, maybe they would melt the snow of their own. Which gives me another idea. My daughter used to have a pair of battery powered heated socks for skiing. Maybe if you wired these up permanently they could serve as your ice melter without having to replenish the pellets.

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