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Alexa: Secret Agent or Double-Agent?

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sixscrews
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AI or AS?
sixscrews   1/28/2017 4:12:26 PM
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As we used to say when AI first became a buzzterm - 

'If there is Artificial Intelligence there must be Artificial Stupidity.'

But the supidity wasn't artifical - it was entirely organic, mostly in the investor community.

(crocodile tears)

ss/wb

rick merritt
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rick merritt   1/24/2017 2:22:35 PM
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At the grocery store the other day it hit me that this is nothing new.

I know Safeway has been tracking my every purchase for years. I let them so I get points for cheaper gas at their pump. No doubt Visa which handles my card is also tracking the grocery stores purchases--and everything else I buy.

Of course Facebook, Google, Amazon, AirBnB and a lot of other "free" services I use online have also been tracking me. 

I gave away my privacy a loooong time ago. These voice assistants are just the latest way of asking for more.

 

 

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Re: I've got three
DeeJee0   1/21/2017 8:32:00 AM
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"The reverse-sales ploy that someone mentioned strikes me as counterproductive for the seller. Raising the price because they know I like something would actually drive me away as a customer."

Differentiated pricing already is common practice. I've seen it demonstrated. For now, it's mostly based on what device you use. Using a smartphone versus a PC makes the most often a difference in price. For travelling for example the marketeers believe you are less likely to buy a holiday package from your smartphone as users of smartphones spent less time per page and therefore you'll often find better offers on your smartphone to entice you to a quick decision.

Other practices are differentiated pricing based on previous buying history (on one site mainly, but not limited to), low cost versus luxuruous browsing device...

As it's really personnalised and prices of many goods fluctuate already a lot on websites even if you surf daily from the same device to the same site, it's quite hard to catch.

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Alexa vs Google Home have both
JackS063   1/21/2017 5:35:07 AM
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The problem for Alexa is the foundation difference. Google built theirs based on inference and NOT commands. So with Google Home you just talk naturally and say what you want. Wife can say it one way and I a completely different way and get the same result.

We have had the Echo since it was launched and now have several of the Google Homes. We keep the Echo in the kitchen and then Google Homes in our bedroom and then the kids have their in their bedrooms.

My fav feature right now is the ability to stay warm under the covers and control the TV. Just started working last week without me adding a skill or anything.

Actually wife discoverd when watching a movie and kid walked into our room. Not sure if she was joking as she now does in situation that Google Home is NOT available. So like sitting at a traffic light she will say "hey google change light green". She said "hey google pause" and the movie paused. When kid left she said "hey google rewind" and it went back some set amount.

The Echo is a great piece of technology but the Google Home is just different as it seems to have more of a brain inside.

 

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Alexa, buy paper towels...okay, that will be $18.50
rwehri   1/21/2017 2:53:42 AM
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That's the email thread that Amazon sent out.  Like I'm going to pay $18.50 for paper towels.  What will Alexa do?  Send me a truck load of paper towels?  Or do I get the one gold plated version that stands 1.5 cm above the table?  I can't even believe that Amazon's marketing let that slip through the cracks.  I have completely quit using Alexa for any purpose whatsoever.  The absurdity of it all.

jnissen
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A Dinosaur
jnissen   1/20/2017 6:13:28 PM
Do I want one of these in my home? No thanks.

BinaryJudy
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Good luck...
BinaryJudy   1/20/2017 2:15:27 PM
being a secret agent Google. I got a Google Home as a Christmas gift and I like it. It's fun and can be incredibly useful. It has a microphone mute function, which you can activate with your voice, which is nice, but is it really not listening??? LOL. I think it's probably not listening, but I haven't done any investigating. I started my post with a good luck to Google because I have mine sitting on my entertainment center right next to my TV, and the mic is mostly on. So, I would have to imagine they'd have a hard time sifting through and/or keeping all of that audio data. What if I am watching a show where they are talking about terrorists or something? You know some shows will have clear speaking. If I played "Ok Google" through my TV I'm almost certain it would be received (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfCfTYZJWtI&feature=youtu.be). The best part is, even with my TV volume set to a decent level, if I speak loud and clearly enough the Home will still pick up my request. I've given Google and Amazon the benefit of the doubt on privacy. I don't have anything to hide and if they are listening then have fun listening to my TV.

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Walls and ears
perl_geek   1/20/2017 1:47:16 PM
Who needs Big Brother or the Stasi, when the proles are falling over themselves to expose their lives by recording them on Facebook, chatting with their thermostats, and installing apps on cellphones that disgorge their location and entire contents to someone in China?

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TonyTib   1/20/2017 1:29:45 PM
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Well, at least my kids are having to memorize the times table -- no calculators or smart phones allowed at school

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Re: Google Home is my hands-free kitchen radio
TonyTib   1/20/2017 1:28:31 PM
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Google home might have AI, but it doesn't have real knowledge: going from Bach (baroque) to Debussy (impressionist) doesn't make sense if you have real knowlege of classical music.


BTW, I don't remember if Don Knuth (of Stanford CS fame) loved Bach, but I do remember that he has a pipe organ in his home :)

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