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rick merritt
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rick merritt   8/23/2010 7:05:53 AM
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Should China's Huawei or ZTE be able to acquire U.S. companies and/or do business with the U.S. government?

Lionlair
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Lionlair   8/23/2010 8:17:37 PM
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Hum - Maybe the various US companies should bring their production home as well. Hire US engineers and Techs. Maybe force Huawei to move some of its operation to produce stuff for China and the ROW to the US. We can't be the thinker nation as was falsely told. First the job giveaway was for assembly. Just retool the minds of our assembly people... Then Engineers and inventory went overseas. Now they (foreign vendors want to come in and take what business that is doing away as well. How is the US people going to make a living? Building a wall of the USA - out of rock and stone I suppose... Martin I say NO. Enough is enough!

Dong.Liu_#3
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Dong.Liu_#3   8/23/2010 8:21:32 PM
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I am definitely with Rick about Huawei issue. US can be generous, donating a few billion here and killing a couple of dictatore there; but US can be very selfish, too. Whatever they do they have a pretty, lawful reasons, whicl whatever the Chinese do they are doing it for the communist' interest. These dirty politicians, I doubt if they received enough PR expenses from the companies they try to ban doing busines.

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Zeev00   8/23/2010 8:25:23 PM
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Two short comments. Firstly, one should distinguish between companies working mostly in civilian areas like HP or Cisco as compared to, say Raytheon or Northrop-Grumman. I have no knowledge of Huawei's market or connections so I can't really say which class it belongs to, but assuming a-priori that it is in the same class with HP or Cisco, exposed mostly to market pressures rather than government pressures, seems misleading. Further, translating, "funding from China's army" to "bidding on DARPA grants" also smacks of demagoguery without further details. Secondly, commenting that the eight senators are republicans is not germane and not really helpful. Idiocy, protectionism, and national jingoism are not necessarily republican attributes. If you don't believe me, look up the NAFTA dispute with Mexican truckers which has resulted in increased tariffs on US good just this month, or Congress' refusal to ratify the free trade agreements with Columbia and South Korea since the democrat won it in 2006. In other words, it would help it you decided whether you want to smack idiots for their acts, or whether you want to write a political attack on one party under the guise of issue-specific pitch.

Sheetal.Pandey
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Sheetal.Pandey   8/23/2010 9:05:47 PM
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wow technology and politics all together! what a story. i wonder if its really true?

GeorgeCDO
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GeorgeCDO   8/23/2010 10:33:03 PM
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I suggest you go to Wikipedia and look at Huawei's entry, especially: Criticisms and controversy Technology theft Customer relations Security concerns Workforce treatment Some of Huawei's first products were routers running Cisco's router code. I have talked with friends who saw Huawei equipment that displayed Cisco error messages. The other concern is that counterfeit Cisco gear turned up in China two years ago and posed a potential security threat. May 12, 2008 FBI worried as DoD sold counterfeit Cisco gear: By tampering with networking equipment, spies could open up a back door to sensitive military systems ... In late February the FBI broke up a counterfeit distribution network, seizing an estimated $3.5 million worth of components manufactured in China. This two-year FBI effort, called Operation Cisco Raider, involved 15 investigations run out of nine FBI field offices ... According to the presentation, Cisco's gold and silver partners have purchased counterfeit equipment and sold it to the government and defense contractors. http://www.infoworld.com/d/security-central/fbi-worried-dod-sold-counterfeit-cisco-gear-266 People should at least read the NY Times article (link included in the EE Times article). Personally, I think it is likely that in the near future, Huawei equipment will be found to have intentional security leaks. And if they get this Sprint Nextel contract, they will use it as as a starting point to undercut and dominate the US telecom market. If Huawei doubles their annual sales, they will be bigger than Cisco, which was added to the Dow Jones Industrial Average last year.

old account Frank Eory
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old account Frank Eory   8/23/2010 11:51:39 PM
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Huawei is already a global company with a substantial market share. Nobody has yet reported any intentional security leaks or evidence of anything that would raise national security concerns. Perhaps the U.S. government might choose not to do business directly with Huawei, and it has that right, but here we are talking about a for-profit company, Sprint-Nextel, having the right to choose to buy equipment from Huawei rather than from a western company. It's Sprint-Nextel's business, not the governement's...

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jimcondon   8/24/2010 12:27:58 AM
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It truly saddens me that this letter is not about any real attempt to look at issues like outsourcing of engineering jobs or any other economic issue that would be important at this time. This is simple electoral pandering and payback to political backers. It has no more real importance to the american people than steroids in baseball. Politicians need to start worrying about the real issues in our country rather than sending out conspiracy theories that sound like they are out of the latest spy novel.

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chanj0   8/24/2010 12:41:45 AM
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Globalization is indeed happening. Business is business. If we support free market economy, shall we selectively keep certain business from operating? I am more interested in knowing what kind of opportunity the worry will bring.

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goafrit   8/24/2010 1:03:00 AM
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You are absolutely correct. I would have preferred job protection than the nonsense of Huawei. America must wake up to globalization, but Americans deserve good jobs.

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