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junko.yoshida
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Re: Freezing contamination
junko.yoshida   9/6/2013 7:07:21 PM
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@rich.pell, thanks for sharing a list of interesting URLs. They will surely come handy for anyone with an agenda to promote nuclear power. Just to be clear, I am neutral about nuclear power plants, and i don't consider my writing about Fukushima 'fear mongering.' There are so many unknowns about what's going on in and around Fukushima right now. To declare the safety of anything in fukushima in such a derministic way ( as shown in your links) strikes me premature. A reporter in me tells me to probe further than take sides.

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Complex problem and new opportunity
_hm   9/6/2013 8:39:51 PM
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@Junko: It is wrong to relate Nuke disaster with 2020 Tokyo Olympics. When you try to achieve high goals, it has attached string of risks. Nuke has more pronounced risk factors.

Olympics is a new opportunity for Japanese people and make sports more popular. Why there is need to replate to together?

We wish Governemet get novel idea to resolve this problem. If not, time is solution. We also wish your mother to celebrate 100th birthday.

junko.yoshida
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Re: Complex problem and new opportunity
junko.yoshida   9/7/2013 12:12:43 AM
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@_hm, logically speaking, Olympics and nuclear issues should be discussed separately. But if the government is using their ambition to host Olympics to deflect people's attention on nuke issues (worse, if they are willing to say anything like "the nuclear cleanup issues will be resolved by 2020"), well, we need to connect the two, and ask questions.

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Today....
Charles.Desassure   9/7/2013 12:20:22 AM
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It's not you, it is just the way society (around the world) is today.  People are more interested in the headline news.  Best wishes to your mother.

 

 


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Water tanks earthquake proof?
Olaf Barheine   9/7/2013 6:30:33 AM
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The pictures of these huge water tanks with all this contaminated water make me really nervous. I hope they will not collapse when the earth starts one day to move again. And the earth will move again!

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Re: Freezing contamination
rich.pell   9/7/2013 10:10:55 AM
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Hi Junko.  The articles (and video) in the above links are specifically addressing scientific and technical issues at Fukushima and - most importantly - attempting to put them in perspective, which should be of interest to anyone interested in better understanding the actual risks associated with the ongoing situation.  Most reporting on this simply repeats technical data and relative levels (e.g., "10 times higher") or shows images of projected radiation plumes in the ocean without actually putting this data into any context.

junko.yoshida
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Re: Freezing contamination
junko.yoshida   9/7/2013 5:27:57 PM
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@rich.pell, I respectfully disagree.

Here's what the author says in theengineer.co.uk site:

Over 18,500 people lost their lives as a result of the tsunami. Of those, the number attributable to Fukushima is zero, despite the meltdowns continually being described as 'deadly' and radiation levels as 'lethal'. It all adds to the continuing demonisation of nuclear power, which is — to say the least — unhelpful.

Read more: http://www.theengineer.co.uk/opinion/comment/fukushima-alarmism-is-a-bigger-risk-than-radiation/1017047.article#ixzz2eFDNIL88

 

I don't see any science in this statement, while I see a good argument for pro nuclear power. It ignores any long-term impact of nuclear accidents. Further it ignors the very fact that the contaminated areas are most likely uninhabitable.

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Where's the proof?
WKetel   9/7/2013 7:40:07 PM
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Concerning the statement that "there is no effect", it does not take any proof to lie. That has been one of the things that we have seen for quite a while now, which is that anybody can make up a tale with no regard for it being even slightly true, and the apparent credibility is dependant solely on "how well they talk". The skilled orators with the great charismatic style are not burdened by having to be factual in their speech. We see this repeatedly, so why should we expect anything different.

Now with the Fukoshima nuclear plant disaster, since the news media is not able to do anything at all to help solve the problems, they have chosen to ignore them, since fixating on an oncoming disaster that is unavoidable is a good way to have a stress problem, or a mental meltdown. Shades of arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic once all the lifeboats have left.

junko.yoshida
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Tokyo gets 2020 Summer Olympics
junko.yoshida   9/8/2013 12:33:26 AM
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Now that it is decided Tokyo is hosting the 2020 Summer Olympics, it's up to us to hold the Japanese government accountable for nuke cleanup.

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Re: Freezing contamination
rich.pell   9/8/2013 10:15:15 AM
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The particular article that you cite was mostly addressing the proposed Fukushima "ice wall."  For a discussion of long-term effects of nuclear accidents in general, there is much material available.  The video link I listed - Fukushima and Chernobyl: Myth versus Reality - does discuss this aspect as it specifically relates to Chernobyl and Fukushima.  The World Health Organization has also issued a report stating that "for the general population inside and outside of Japan, the predicted risks are low and no observable increases in cancer rates above baseline rates are anticipated," so there is plenty of science supporting this view.

Yes, there are some areas within a 20-mile-wide "exclusion zone" that have been designated "uninhabitable" - at least for now.  Some of these areas are gradually being redesignated.  And the radiation levels being used to establish the various zone designations - 20 and 50 mSv of radiation per year - appear to be very conservative (i.e., the effects from exposure to such levels are likely to be unmeasurable).

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