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old account Frank Eory
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old account Frank Eory   7/12/2012 12:07:28 AM
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This equity plus research funding is an interesting strategy. When your customer list is so short and development costs are so high, it makes a lot sense for both ASML and Intel. Should Samsung and TSMC join the party? That's a tougher call, now that Intel is in with both feet.

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any1   7/11/2012 7:08:18 PM
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I have mixed feelings about this strategy. In most respects I guess it was somewhat inevitable that even ASML would want/need help with 450 mm and EUV litho, but is it one step too many down the road of industry consolidation? Are Intel, Samsung, and to a lesser extent TSMC going to be "too big to fail" at some point if they they start taking equity positions in equipment companies? Are AMAT, TEL, and other equipment companies going to follow ASMLs lead? Where does it all end?

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mcgrathdylan   7/11/2012 3:46:42 PM
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It seems to me that there is little doubt that ASML went public with this deal because a) it's a big boost for both 450 and EUV (not to mention a vote of confidence for EUV) and b) to put the heat on TSMC and Saumsun. As you say, it would be no big deal for ASML to keep at least part of this plan a secret. But ASML wants the world to know that Samsung and TSMC have a shot to get involved too. Could this be a boost for Nikon? I think if Nikon has the ability to match ASML in either of this technologies, now is its golden opportunity to turn the tides and level the playing feel. But I don't think Nikon can do that at this point.

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Peter Clarke   7/11/2012 11:20:09 AM
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Interesting that ASML went public on Intel while telling analysts that Samsung and TSMC have 45 days to get in on the deal at the same price. The argument runs that ASML was obliged to go public once it had signed the deal with Intel. But I have known public companies keep secrets while they dot the tees and cross the eyes. Could ASML be trying a touch of high-pressure salespersonship? Will it rebound the benefit of Nikon?

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mcgrathdylan   7/11/2012 9:57:30 AM
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I'm very curious what others thing of the Intel-AMSL deal and ASML's strategy. Let it rip.

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