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resistion
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re: Even with Intel's chips on the table, EUV still no sure bet
resistion   7/23/2012 9:14:49 PM
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It would make hell of a good sauna. ;)

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Peter Clarke   7/23/2012 2:19:36 PM
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It is also a fraction of the total required to generate that EUV power.

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resistion   7/21/2012 2:50:54 AM
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The trouble with any scale-up solution such as this is the EUV power is a very small fraction of the total which is dominated by heat. The thermal loading at target EUV levels has not been comprehended.

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askubel   7/20/2012 10:01:25 PM
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Even since the article on July 9th saying they were "in talks with ASML", I haven't heard anything more about zPlasma (http://www.eetimes.com/electronics-news/4389852/EUV-startup-in-talks-with-ASML) They believe they can have a 200W power source integrated into production equipment within four years for $5 million. Time will tell if this is actually possible, but at the very least they have a unique approach to the source problem.

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resistion   7/20/2012 4:45:08 PM
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This year Intel already raised the power requirement for EUV at 20 nm feature size (whatever node it is called) by a factor of several. Samsung knows the same issue for DRAM contacts at same size (shot noise). With this new awareness, the contingencies should be being accelerated in panic mode right now.

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any1   7/20/2012 2:03:32 PM
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I doubt that we will see adoption of EUV as early as 2014. Even 2016 is not certain, but that's too far out to predict. My best guess is that EUV will happen eventually for a small group of companies that can justify the cost with high volumes, but there are other technologies now on the horizon that could supplant EUV or at least coexist with EUV for certain applications, or lower volumes where it would be difficult to amortize the cost of an EUV mask set.

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philaix   7/20/2012 7:06:53 AM
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What will be the price of a mask set for the techno addressed ?

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mcgrathdylan   7/20/2012 12:55:14 AM
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Intel's pocket book and ASML's reported progress are positive developments for EUV. But after years of ups and downs and missed schedules, can we count on EUV in 2014, 2016, 2018 or ever?

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