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mcgrathdylan
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mcgrathdylan   8/2/2012 7:48:13 PM
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Jack Harding, president and CEO of eSilicon Corp., is a well-known skeptic of the notion that FPGAs are displacing ASICs. http://www.eetimes.com/electronics-blogs/eda-designline-blog/4033356/A-dissenting-opinion-on-the-programmable-imperative- Gavrielov said during an interview earlier this year that he respects Harding and his opinion, but that the success of fabless ASIC vendors or "value chain producers" like eSilicon does not mean there is not a flight to FPGAs. On the contrary, Gavrielov argues, as the cost of doing an ASIC skyrockets, firms look first to outsource them and then, eventually, to skip them altogether and go with FPGAs. The success of Xilinx and that of eSilicon is not mutually exclusive, he argues. But, according to Gavrielov, the success of eSilicon and others like it supports the business of ASICs is at its sunset.

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mcgrathdylan   8/3/2012 1:29:44 AM
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That should be "supports the theory that the business of ASICs is at its sunset."

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krisi   8/2/2012 8:03:58 PM
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I think the flight to FPGA is pretty obvious, it is enough to check the number of ASIC starts annually...Jack is clearly biased as he is trying to promote eSilicon service so you can't blaming to claim otherwise...Kris

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KB3001   8/3/2012 12:32:53 AM
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Without a doubt. FPGAs are not succeeding on the other side of the spectrum however with the rise of GPGPUs.

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krisi   8/3/2012 2:04:50 AM
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Interesting comment @KB3001...could we consider GPGPU as an ASIC?

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KB3001   8/4/2012 12:16:34 AM
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Not with the GP prefix :-) I think FPGAs are failing in the more general purpose end of the spectrum where GPUs are more and more dominant. Low programmer productivity remains FPGAs' Achilles Heel.

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LJL1   8/9/2012 7:23:27 AM
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GPGPUs are likely to be displaced by Intel's MIC (Many Integrated Cores) architecture. General delivery next quarter with 60-odd 4-thread Pentium-III-like cores.

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re: FPGA vendors squabble over 28-nm market share
docdivakar   8/3/2012 7:39:07 PM
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While the two big boys are quibbling over who has more marbles, a third player is quietly making progress at a more advanced 22nm node. That would be Tabula, right here in Silicon Valley! MP Divakar

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KB3001   8/4/2012 12:18:35 AM
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The proof of the pudding is in the eating. We heard a lot about Tabula and Achronix but they have yet to deliver.

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mcgrathdylan   8/3/2012 9:17:08 PM
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Both Tabula and Achronix are interesting companies with 22-nm FPGAs. But Xilinx and Altera don't seem to be worried about them. When will these upstarts truly make their presence felt?

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docdivakar   8/3/2012 10:12:38 PM
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Dylan, I haven't run into Steve Tieg (from Tabula) lately but you ask an interesting question. Tabula was already sampling a product with a major networking vendor (we all know who that is!) almost a year ago. I haven't kept up with Achronix. MP Divakar

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krisi   8/9/2012 4:13:50 PM
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Great points Dylan and MP Divakar, where is Tabula these days? Kris

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klsxgo90   8/10/2012 2:46:03 PM
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Tabula, Achronix, eASIC have one thing in common: They are all non-public companies so they don't have to share their actual revenue results with analysts. In keeping with the theme of this article, if I slap a party affiliation on them: Tabula (Green Party), Achronix (Peace & Freedom), eASIC(Reform)... Do you ever see these guys getting a podium at the debates??

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krisi   8/10/2012 3:48:28 PM
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eAsic is low cost Tabula is high performance What is value proposition for Achronix?

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