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subman
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subman   10/11/2012 5:44:20 PM
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You are quite ambitious, spreadsheets on a phone and writing documents on a tablet...most people I think prefer the PC interface for activities like that. It's not just the processer power, screen size and interface matters for many applications.

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jameszhou2000   10/11/2012 5:50:41 PM
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whether Windows 8 can save MS is still a question mark. the trend is the tablet if you still call it PC ...

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paul020   10/11/2012 6:32:26 PM
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I personally know a little old lady (she is retired, 60+) and she uses her ipad for all those activities, her computer is sitting idle. I also have 2 teenagers and see what a teen can do with a phone and their thumbs.

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Bert22306   10/11/2012 9:29:00 PM
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I don't know if we are a unique household, but I doubt it. We have two PCs, A Kindle e-reader, and a Kindle Fire. The PCs are constantly in use, the Kindle might go unused for days at a time. My wife does all manner of things on her PC, including paying bills, bank stuff, scrapbooking, playing "words with friends," all things that she finds much easier with the large, wide screen and keyboard/mouse. She also uses the Kindles, but that's exclusively for reading books or the news, weather reports, and that sort of info consuming. I do the same, and also watch most of my TV now with the PC acting as the settop box, feeding the 42" HDTV, with remote keyboard/mouse. And there's more. Whenever I receive e-mails with the little discalimer, you know, like "sent from experia," or other such, it always sounds like an apology. The way I read those disclaimers is, "please forgive the overly cryptic message and the typos, because honestly, I can't do this right on this little device." Am I the only person who thinks this way?

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Jonathan Allen   10/11/2012 9:29:40 PM
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Every couple of years Microsoft comes out with a new operating system whose "improvements" are usually trivial, but which is ever more bloated and obsoletes otherwise perfectly adequate software and hardware. There are jobs which PCs do better, and jobs which tablets do better. Let's not freak out because of a market fluctuation.

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DMcCunney   10/12/2012 4:07:48 AM
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I don't see the PC market in need of saving. The underlying issue is simply that the market in the US is largely saturated. Everyone that might want a PC probably has one. This is an issue for Microsoft and Intel, since virtual all PCs are shipped with Windows and most have Intel chips. Their problem becomes "Where will growth come from?" MS with Windows 8 is seeking growth in things that aren't PCs, and sees tablets and smartphones as areas where things can run Windows. Win8 runs on ARM, though that's not exactly new: Dave Cutler, the principal architect of NT (and of DEC's VMS OS before that) was insistent that it be portable, and there were flavors of NT for DEC Alpha workstations and MIPS R300/4000 processors. NT underlies Win8, and I expect the port to ARM was relatively straight-forward. The big change is something everyone seems headed towards: the *same* OS running on any device the user might have. With Win8, MS covers PCs, tablets, and phones. Apple is converging OS/X and iOS. Android is providing a unifying point for Linux, with an X86 port in alpha. In the US, the PC market is replacements, and the average life of an installed unit is probably about 3 years before a faster more power model replaces it. (I'd also bet that most Windows upgrades happen *because* a user buys a new machine with a newer version of Windows installed.)

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mcgrathdylan   10/12/2012 6:24:47 AM
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@jonathan allen- great point. the tablet has changed the game, but let's see how it plays out.

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GordonScott   10/12/2012 1:27:16 PM
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It's far from surprising that smart-phones and tablets have taken some of the PC market. Anyone who needs lightweight and compact mobile computing for email, web and a little 'office'-type computing is likely to choose the phone/tablet. Anyone who needs more with buy a laptop or PC, many will buy both. It was always pretty much inevitable that there would be an overall increase in units sold and that a percentage of PC sales would migrate to mobile devices. How was it ever likely to be otherwise? I personally think Win8 is a red herring in the equation. My thanks go to 'fundamentals' for mentioning the dual-boot issues. Most of my machines are Linux, but I always have a couple that dual-boot. It sounds like I'll not be getting Win8 any time soon on those!

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selinz   10/12/2012 5:06:33 PM
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I think that the timing is important. People start spending money on stuff in November. All of my families cell phones are up for renewal. Most of the "household" computers are a bit long in the tooth. If no Windows 8 is available, I will be pretty unmotivated to upgrade the computers and the 5 phones that will be upgraded will probably stick with Android and/or Apple. I am tempted to get the least technical person of the group (my wife) a Windows phone because the reviews have been good, even though the adoption has been poor. Hurry up Microsoft or you're going to miss another opportunity.

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Mxv   10/12/2012 9:27:43 PM
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The 'app' model for deploying, installing and removing software is greatly needed in the PC world. It's so much cleaner and easier to use. Don't understand why we haven't had this already, it's not rocket science. Add to that the QA and security from getting an application from an App store that scrutinizes the sw before users get it. Touch would be useful for the PC, but not on the main viewing area (fingerprints are annoying when reading), but a sidebar would be useful. These features would provide a migration path from tablets to PCs for those who need more power or bigger viewing area.

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