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Cowboys new stadium a reminder of how to waste energy

Owen Glubiak
8/18/2009 03:00 PM EDT

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Kev-bo
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Kev-bo   9/3/2009 9:04:42 PM
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Hi Lou, Wondering where you are getting your data.. According to info I've been able to find: * Texas is definitely no slouch in renewable-based electricity, but is still #2 to California's #1 * Texas is by far the wind energy king * Unfortunately Texas is also the #1 consumer of electricity despite a significant population disparity with California * Worse yet, Texas' demand is growing faster than the national average and double the rate of California At least based on the 2006 DOE figures http://apps1.eere.energy.gov/states/electricity.cfm/state=CA#fuel http://apps1.eere.energy.gov/states/electricity.cfm/state=TX#fuel Maybe you have newer info ?

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cdansreau   9/3/2009 5:59:16 PM
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Someone mentioned a "deal" with the city. I live near san Diego, CA. As a taxpayer the word deal in asociation with footbabll stadiums is a sore point because one past mayor really was bad for the taxpayers in this regards. There are only two negative concerns about the new stadium that i fell are relevant. 1. the use of incadesent light is high power, LED or other lighting would have been much cheaper and reliable to maintain. 2. who pays the bills? is it the city as such a bit more design for lower costs might be good to reduce long term costs. I do hope you guys enjoy the stadium, irregardless. one mention was made of CA electric costs because of the comparasion to Santa Monica. I cannot comment on Santa Monica electric rates but can say that san diego gas & electric is not as enlightned as texas generally is is. SDGE tries to use imported power whenever they can (my opnion). Apparently they have a bookeeper mentality and look at return on investment and if they have no power distribution plant the ROI is wonderful. this does result in higher electricity cost but they seem to think that they have monopoly. regards, Charlie

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sthe18   9/3/2009 2:58:16 PM
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This article doesn't deserve to be the front page on my email newsletter. See all arguments below...

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Semiconductor Design Engineer   8/26/2009 6:01:14 PM
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Hey, I'm not amazed, why it's been proven that engineers typically "...take more extreme conservative and religious positions... (see http://www.eetimes.com/news/latest/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=205920319)" which is why they make good terrorists (see http://www.edn.com/blog/1750000175/post/1030020903.html) :-o! Also, if you do a simple google on some of the more extreme posters profile, well you will see for example user "NO MO" is actually an engineer for a strip Coal Mining operation in Kentucky for crying out loud. Like he's got a lot of nerve to through stones! Yep, I don't know how I ever got into engineering, I'm a definite "tree hugger". I'm going to go drive my little Prius on the highway now and run any Ford F110's right of the road, then I'm heading over to the local ACLU office to do volunteer work before me and my kids work on posters for our march to "Save the Whales"!.

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Navyboy   8/26/2009 5:29:11 PM
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I?m amazed to read so many angry responses here. The data might be off slightly about kilo watt hours, but I hardly think this was written by a ?tree huger?, and so what if it was? Is there anything wrong with being a little green? I would say that this stratum is excessive and unnecessary given how infrequently it will be used. I?m sure it crated a lot of jobs in the building sector, and that is a good thing in the short term, but as the author points out, why not use more modern lighting technology? I wonder how much of the tax payers money went into this stratum for a privately owned team?

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TheOnlyFish   8/26/2009 12:46:04 PM
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First off this was just a negative article from the get go. I dont see a comparison with Texas stadium where the Cowboys used to play or any other stadium for that matter. Typical NY One-Sided Articles

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jayfender   8/25/2009 6:30:06 PM
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I wouldn't say Texas is SUCCEEDING from the Union. The Union may in fact be causing less success in Texas. That lack of success is what caused Gov. Perry to bring up the idea of SECEDING from the Union, though I think the idea is a bit risky.

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Semiconductor Design Engineer   8/25/2009 2:32:58 PM
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I thought Texas was succeeding from the Union?

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DBTI   8/25/2009 3:00:03 AM
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Do not confuse the City of Santa Monica's utility budget with the entire city's population utility usage. The author erroneously claims the stadium uses the about the same energy as the 88,000 citizens of Santa Monica. Using the same energy as several office buildings is not so hard to believe, but using the same amount as all 88,000 fails the most basic sanity test.

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DestroCom   8/24/2009 9:13:01 PM
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Yeah...this engineering "marvel" was so well designed, they didn't take into account the ability of a punter to actually kick the ball upwards. Way to go Dallas.

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