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Valeo makes your car engine hybrid

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prabhakar_deosthali
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prabhakar_deosthali   7/25/2012 10:31:40 AM
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Quite an interesting approach. My Opel Corsa could turn into a hybrid- eager to see it happen earlier than 2017. Whta would the typical cost of conversion?

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junko.yoshida   7/25/2012 10:39:23 AM
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Interesting development. But not available until 2017? What's the hold up?

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jg_   7/25/2012 11:30:36 AM
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Quite poor reporting, vague in the extreme, and could this be the same Valeo who have been pitching stop-start systems since 2009 ? Back then they promised 2013... http://www.valeo.com/en/press-releases/details.html?id=115 Genuine engineered Stop-Start systems need regen braking, larger batteries, and beefed up starter motors, is it not really a 'alternator retro-fit'.

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anne-francoise.pele   7/25/2012 2:50:52 PM
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@jg: Thanks for your comment. I invite you to read the update. You will notice that Hybrid4All solution combines Valeo’s enhanced Stop-Start, regenerative braking and torque assist functions.

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anne-francoise.pele   7/25/2012 2:52:12 PM
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Good question, Junko. I have asked Valeo and am awaiting their answer about delivery.

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elPresidente   7/25/2012 6:53:41 PM
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Are we supposed to be amazed by something you can buy as an option on a Chevy Malibu?

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Lloyd P   7/25/2012 7:08:47 PM
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The biggest hold-up is the time necessary to tune the system to the target vehicle, then validate the combination for durability. Once approved for production, there is validation at the component level and vehicle level. Vehicle level testing typically involves at least 4 seasons, including 2 winter cycles, of real world, test track, and lab testing to "prove" the design is acceptable. It is not uncommon for a program to take 4 years to go from approval to saleable vehicles. There are also regulatory issues to resolve (EPA testing in the US, crashworthyness testing and other levels of certification). Full disclosure: I am retired from a major North American automotive electronics supplier. These comments come from 30+ years developing electronics for the auto industry. Yes, Valeo and others have been pitching this and similar systems for at least 10 years now.

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Lloyd P   7/25/2012 7:10:58 PM
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Similar systems also appeared on the limited production Hybrid Saturn Vue. It was not a well known or well publicized option, though.

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anne-francoise.pele   7/25/2012 7:35:56 PM
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FYI, Valeo said its system ensures manufacturers compliance with future EU CO2 emissions norms up to the year 2020.

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Bert22306   7/25/2012 8:23:29 PM
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Mild hybrids, the type that this system would create, aren't all that expensive, but also don't offer huge rewards. Saturn, for instance, sold a mind hybrid Aura (same chassis as the Opel Vectra long wheel base version), but the fuel savings compared with the V-6 variant were only a couple of mpg at best, in real-world testing. I used to think that just about all cars in the near future would be mild hybrids. The manufacturers, however, do not seem to be heading in that direction, lately. As to meeting CO2 targets, that's 100 percent related to fuel economy. It looks to me like manufacturers are betting more on the stop-start feature, on smaller displacement but turbocharged 4 cylinder engines, direct injection, and the like. I wish that they would also introduce small displacement, turbocharged V-6 options. They may not quite match the fuel economy of a four, but they are so much nicer. A 2 liter turbo V-6 would be perfect for decent sized cars.

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