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12/9/2009 03:00 AM EST
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neel210
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neel210   12/23/2009 3:27:36 PM
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I am an engineer working in Bangalore for one of the big semi-conductor companies. My observations :- 1. The west has a long history in innovation specially in the technology sector. It is only in the last decade or so that engineers in India have got an opportunity to work on the latest technologies. Also the number of Phd's and Masters in India does not compare to the West. So yes we have a long way to go. However I see no reason why this cannot change. 2. As far as work ethics and communication skills are concerned, I can say that we are as good (or as bad) as anyone else. So all this talk about Indian engineers not being truthful and jumbling their words is bs imho. 3. Also there is no feeling of insecurity here. In fact the general feeling here is that we will be taking on more responsibilities in the future snd the percentage of work being done here can only go up.

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elPresidente   12/21/2009 9:07:26 PM
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I'm actually quite pleased with the prospects for engineers now in the USA vs India, now that corporate America has had a taste and has seen what it is getting, and has gotten, for its money. Nothing but execution of tasks, and with a lack of taskmasters, vs financial MBAs, in the USA corporations' management, I don't need to say more about what's happening to US companies now as a result of mere, unquestioning, lack of foundation, task execution by Indian engineers. http://www.tnr.com/article/economy/wagoner-henderson You may try to label this as "insecure" as a headfake or distraction, but I think many of us here have quite confidently said that inexperience, and the arrogance that goes with theory vs practice, will bite you in the bodily place you sit on all day. Before the turn of this decade, US companies sat on their hands as their engineers innovated and produced products for revenue, creating a worlwide economic boom. Now, there are not many innovative products to sell, nor are there viable companies to buy, leaving the Finance MBAs without recourse. Now you know why and we see Indians on all kinds of social networks and forums scrambling to pick up the pieces as they vaporize in front of their eyes - they are the ones who are endangered now, desperately seeking "trends" and "home runs", as if it is something published in a book somewhere.

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Rapul   12/21/2009 10:21:32 AM
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You all miss the point. I was in attendance and the context was not to challenge that we Indian engineers are better but rather that the future can be bright for us if we do the right things. Your very over reaction indicates how insecure you really are about what the future holds for us and engineers from China too...

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DiehardEE   12/19/2009 7:09:43 PM
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The article is indeed imbecile and seems more like a Mentor sales pitch. This article does not have any concrete data. The low average age of engineer does not mean they are better (in fact, older the better). Also, how many of engineers believe they would like to continue their technical education and training also does not mean much, given the difference is of only 1-2% (probably less than margin of error). As an engineer who has worked both in North America and in India, I can surely tell Indian engineers have a long way to go. For that to happen, the first thing they need to do is to do away with brain dead service model, a model where no creativity can be expected.

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Semiconductor Design Engineer   12/18/2009 2:12:33 PM
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Well, I'm an true Red White and Blue American, my family goes back to German emigrants who fought in the Revolutionary War to help establish our freedoms. I've been doing engineering for 22+ years. I did not read this article but I can tell you my experience at many different companies going back to working with engineers from India as far back as in the late 80's has been nothing but positive! When I have had problems with other engineers it all boils down to just being human, never saw any correlation to race, religion, origin, etc. Just plain old human shortcomings like the hubris, etc. In fact, I've very happy to call many engineers from India my good friends, they have enriched my life with their culture (especially the food!) and their creativity and hard work just have others have. Any way, don't be so negative guys! Happy Holidays and may you all be blessed with joy, happiness, and freedom from all troubles in the coming new year!

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ryujip   12/17/2009 6:37:12 AM
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Indian Engineers are lousy engineers...they don't have proper work ethics... they jumble their words in their mouth....and they lie a lot about a lot of things

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Amir11   12/15/2009 10:32:27 PM
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You seem to have an extremely limited experience of Indian engineers in general. You might also want to work on improving your grammar and spelling. I'm assuming your engineering knowledge and experience is impeccable, as you believe it is.

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GeniusEE   12/15/2009 8:39:43 AM
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I don't see why the Indian engineers should get emotional or see this as any kind of threat to their intellect or existence. The facts are that Indian engineers are young and inexperienced, just as the engineers on the Space Shuttle program were - a substantial reason for why it blew up. The facts are that young engineers (we all were at one time) have no ability to screen signal from noise, again from a lack of experience and mentoring, so they have to take in the full story and judge based on relative information and trust (of a salesman....), or worse (like think what they learned in school is 90% applicable in industry), versus stripes earned in the trenches by experienced engineers who are doing designs versus attending semi-useless seminars that are engineered to sell products by the presenters. And the willingness to attend simply tickles the salesmen to express lavish compliments upon this "market segment" (which is what you are to them) in an effort to have you buy their stuff and to continue your threatened existence because you are among the only ones buying their stuff. The facts are that the Indians are seeing their jobs' existence now being threatened and are in a panic to establish credibility as their jobs get repatriated back to the US and Europe for the higher productivity and innovation levels, as well as reduced employee "churn", compared to the "kids" in India. Yes, the facts point to a threat to Indian engineers' very existence being threatened now - the tables have turned as companies saw what they got in the past decade for the cheaper spend. So, Indian comrades, do not get emotional or be threatened in existence or be threatened intellectually to where you are compelled to seek out every available course and seminar in order to keep pace with your more experienced and capable bretheren in the USA and Europe. Seek them out as mentors (not as Mentor) and masters and be their apprentice and LEARN as they LEAD you. Do the dirty work and earn the stripes only Father Time can give you and move up and get more responsibility as you earn it. As my father once said to me, you cannot build a house by starting to make the roof first. Without this mentoring and exposure, you'll be at the whim of vendors, whose only evil purpose is to sell you their wares, not to have you succeed as an engineer.

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eddiew   12/14/2009 7:55:58 PM
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No emotion or threat to our existence .... just sound and observable facts. Next I expect the word "deniers" to come into play to describe us (engineers) who base things on observable facts.

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GeniusEE   12/14/2009 6:30:27 PM
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I can see how the ground became "fertile" and why Mentor and "tool" go together so well.

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