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Hot Chips: Inside AMD's Bulldozer, Bobcat

8/24/2010 00:01 AM EDT
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rick merritt
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rick merritt   8/24/2010 2:00:03 PM
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Will Bulldozer plow a new level in multicore processing, packing elements of multiple cores into one?

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_hm   8/24/2010 2:28:58 PM
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It will be interesting to see Bobcat core and its product derivative in Embedded Systems market. Do this processor have special feature as regards to Real Time OS? Will AMD make this processor for Military temperature range, -55 C to 90 C and will it have WiDi capability?

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ttt3   8/24/2010 4:58:46 PM
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The extended operating temperature is an interesting point. The higher-end (Core i7, Core2) Intel CPUs are not available in the colder temperature range (down to -40 C or -55 C). Only the lower-end Atom is available in this temperature range. Wonder if AMD could differentiate themselves here. (Or if they, like Intel, don't really care about the relatively low-volume military/industrial segment).

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vivekv80   8/24/2010 7:14:49 PM
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I guess the leaner and newer AMD can now bulldoze Intel and probably compete with NVIDIA :)

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Pryderi   8/24/2010 8:26:36 PM
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I don't see AMD "bulldozing" Intel; even if the performance of these new chips surpasses Intel's best, it's not likely to be by a large margin as when the Athlon 64 was up against the Pentium 4 architecture, and Intel has plenty of resources to fight back. What it might mean (assuming that AMD's chips deliver on their promise) is that AMD will have a product line that can face Intel on equal terms throughout the performance spectrum, instead of being limited to the low end (and low margin) part of the business. That will improve their profitability, and thus their prospects for long-term survival.

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fdunn0   8/25/2010 1:50:08 AM
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But you are forgetting that Intel charges 3 times the price on the higher end chips. Even if AMD were to JUST come to parity with Intel it would mean that Intel's profits would tank. AMD/ATI already has the full package with a GOOD graphics base, Intel has a long way to go to get there.

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octop   8/26/2010 8:53:04 AM
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It's not the matter of who created the most powerful CPU. It's the matter of remaining in profitable business. AMD don mind be the king of low-mid end processor maker.

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Charles.Nelson   8/24/2010 8:55:51 PM
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For Bulldozer it is more likely that AMD is attempting to maintain their 'Best Performance Per Watt' mantra. Which Bulldozer certainly sounds capable of achieving.

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octop   8/25/2010 4:30:33 AM
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Enough for the hardware multi-cores architecture. It's time for software / OS architecture to catch up.

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KB3001   8/25/2010 8:29:58 PM
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Absolutely. As welcome as these announcements are, the problem of programming these architectures efficiently and with a reasonable effort remains a major concern in the computer industry. I do not see much breakthroughs there...

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Kinnar   8/25/2010 11:08:45 AM
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It is a great news that AMD has comeup with a new hardware platform for the chips used in pcs. It has to compete with Intel and Microsoft implementations. The previous history says that AMD is not being able to successful in getting the market acceptance against Intel, and it is not being able to beat the competition. Lets hope that this time the history will not get repeated and the society will get something that will reduce the prices of the PC such that PCs will get widely accepted in the average house hold and education sector. We wish all the best to AMD.

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goafrit   8/26/2010 12:42:13 AM
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Great news for AMD. However, the hardware is becoming less of the problem, the big one is the software. Let us hope someone can put a competition in this sector. Good luck to AMD

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