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9/1/2010 11:04 PM EDT
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yannickweb
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yannickweb   9/9/2010 8:40:28 AM
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If you want an A4 arm processor you have to find founder who propose this IP processor in a SOC. In fact this is another big adavantage for ARM, you can find a lot of supplier(STm,Samsung,freescale...)

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Luis Sanchez   9/6/2010 9:03:36 PM
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Can somebody lead me to the A4 technical specs? Is it an Arm processor? who's the foundry? Did Apple design it alone or was it a joint effort? Did they hire special staff for this chip? I would like to know more of this chip do you know where can I find more info?

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somethingtofill this stupidentry   9/3/2010 2:15:26 PM
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To bad it is still 1990 technology, the A4 processer will not go above 720p. Any other personal video recorder and most video sources today are High definition (1080i 0r 1080p) higher then 720p and will not work with Apples latest and greatest products with out down conversions.

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ChakC   9/3/2010 11:15:35 AM
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The PA semi A4 engineers are doing great, putting the A4 as a key component in every Apple product. I like the fact that A4 has a much reduced die size and smaller the pin number, so as greatly reduced power consumption. My Moto Droid phone is getting to hot all the time.

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BrettS   9/3/2010 1:14:08 AM
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Once ARM technology moves into 64 bit space, then Intel has something to worry about.

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Weatherbee   9/2/2010 11:50:36 PM
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That will never EVER EVER happen. Apple is a consumer company and getting into industrial/medical/military apps would be far too risky for what they would have to charge to be competitive. It would also possibly "dilute" their brand. It is a really nice idea I've already pursued. Anyway, check out the Texas Instruments AM3715. It is pretty much an A4. You're going to be running Linux for cost sensitive apps or if you are doing hardcore realtime VXWorks/Nucleus/Neutrino etc.

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jimcondon   9/2/2010 8:40:00 PM
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Rick, I'm on board with you and an A4 based netbook from our friends at Apple. I'm imagining a iPad with a keyboard in an Macbook Air form factor. Of course we could rotate the screen to use as a tablet or a netbook form factor. That may be enough to turn me entirely into a mac fan boy. From a processing side, it's definitely possible. The A4 in my iPad is fine for most cloud-based processing. I'm not doing any molecular modeling or 3D design. :) The industrial design will be the side where innovation is required. Jim

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Duane Benson   9/2/2010 5:27:00 PM
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Rick - If you look at what has been done with the Beagleboard, running a Ti OMAP (same ARM Cortex A8 core as the A4), you can see that a netbook/notebook using the A4 isn't too far off. I've browsed the Internet and done word processing with Linux on the Beagleboard we built here at Screaming Circuits. The performance wasn't anything to write home about, but it's pretty darn close. And that was with the 600MHz OMAP. If ARM can keep it's power draw and heat generation down as it continues to improve performance, I'd guess that in two years the processor will be viable for low-end netbooks. I suspect that Intel is chasing after the same market with its Atom processor. ARM coming at it from the low-end up and Intel coming from the high-end down.

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_hm   9/2/2010 4:55:11 PM
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As demonstrated Apple A4 is very capable processor. Many designers may be wondering employing the same in many other innovative solution and markets – industrial control, bio-medical, military and others. Will Apple give literature about this processor in public domain? Will they market this chip as for other design? It will be very encouraging if get this processor and Apple iOS or some real time version of it.

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goafrit   9/2/2010 1:16:02 PM
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Intel has to acquire lots of companies to stay in the embedded systems game. They have since lost the competitive engine. If they lose the embedded market, they will miss the next mobile industry which will be bad.

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