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9/22/2010 02:51 PM EDT
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david.may
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david.may   12/5/2010 2:52:59 PM
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"I would rather use USB 3.0 and drive three meters which is more than adequate for any usage model out there," said the engineer." LOL, sure he would, everyone else would rather have their up to 100 meter/300 feet fibre patch lead at 10gig , if they don't want to wrap the lightpeak in copper and push power down that, then il make do with antiquated RJ45 POE (at least that's one good thing) and tape that to the 100 meter fibre and run the remote device that way if needs be. OC the reason he says three meters for his USB3 is the simple fact that YOU CANT Even Run and power even a simple Wireless 11g/N stick over a that same USB extension on Most USB PC ports Today, if they do make a PO Lightpeak copper wrapped Fibre patch lead then you may actuall use that for remote router to Lightpeak Backbone you might set yo in your home etc... who's this engineer trying to kid ?, the FAR Higher 10Gig/s data rate is what matter to end users TODAY, people will always find ways to power kit if need be. and a simple generic 10 gig 4 port Ethernet Over lightpeak on a PCiE card with 4 fibre patch leads in a self install LAN/WAN kit for $99 is going to fly off the retail shelves in early 2011 if they make them. its just a shame we cant buy them RIGHT NOW, as i/most end users have lots of Christmas holidays money/credit burning a hope right now just waiting to be spent on something worth while like light peak LAN Kits, all the other potential use stuff is just added gravy, Ethernet Over Lightpeak all the way ;)

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david.may   12/5/2010 2:35:05 PM
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its just a shame we cant buy them RIGHT NOW, as i/most end users have lots of Christmas holidays money/credit burning a hope right now just waiting to be spent on something worth while like light peak LAN Kits, all the other potential use stuff is just added gravy, Ethernet Over Lightpeak all the way ;)

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david.may   12/5/2010 2:34:02 PM
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"You will need higher data rates than 10Gbits/s to make differences in apps like video something end users can really see," he said." LOL, this engineer guys never heard of the Massive AVC/H.264 HD 1080P high profile x264 Encoding ? , or the fact Intel are going to include inside Every single Sandy Bridge their HD AVC Encoder/Decoder Engine and there's even an Internal Intel x264 patch being written Right Now by Francois Piednoel , Senior Performance analyst at Intel Corp Santa Clara ... to take advantage of that internal Encoder Core ASIC, all in all many LAN connected PC's and all their app's will find a very good use for this Lightpeak 10Gig throughput those Lazy ethernet OEM's have sat arould For Years not even trying to make and sell better than 1gig for Far to Many Year's, end user's people want to pay for this 10 gig lightpeak LAN/WAN ASAP so let them.

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david.may   12/5/2010 2:30:41 PM
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"None of the top three (HP, Dell, Acer) have made even a hint of support for Light Peak" their crazy not to also push Light peak ASAP if they want consumers to actually buy their PC's ""there's nothing compelling about Light Peak" in its initial implementation, said the PC engineer." this engineer is on crack if he's really thinks that. "By contrast, Light Peak's promise to double USB 3.0 data rates to nearly 10 Gbits/s "won't be that significant for a lot of apps," said the engineer." more bull, the very first protocol Any 3rd party light peak vendor would/should include is Ethernet Over Lightpeak as a generic option, so there is a Very significant for any and all protocols that right on that already , everything from SMB (small medium business) all the way to the SOHO/Home LAN/WAN markets all the other potential use stuff is just added gravy, Ethernet Over Lightpeak all the way ;)

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jimcondon   9/27/2010 7:41:42 PM
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If I remember correctly, at IDF last year, Light Peak was demonstrated for the first time, with Intel showing demo's and prototypes this year. Why would anyone think this was going to hit the market in a major way this year? This is the next generation technology beyond USB 3.0, if Intel wasn't demoing it now, they wouldn't be in the position to roll out products based on it in two years from now, when it will probably being starting to take off.

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wmwm   9/25/2010 12:21:20 AM
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My apologies, line return spaces come up regularly in the editor but not in the post. W

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wmwm   9/25/2010 12:17:55 AM
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Light Peak also has extreme use as a household, and small business, networking standard that offers obscure advantages pairing to optical telecommunications. Data on a wireless link can be recorded and decrypted over the years and not always as desirable. 300m is also enough to displace some cabling in larger enterprises as well. Does anybody remember the IEEE1394 stunting USB 1.0, that lingered for years until USB 1.1. Recently Intel has announced the next version of PCI Express technology. I fully expect at least a USB 3.1 proposal, or replacement, to be announced in the next twelve months that may have the optical links. I also imagine that Intel could potentially also retain a lot of licensing rights to the optical technology. While you may not see a Silicon Photonics link at the mainstream anytime soon, the technology can turn up in light peak in years to come. Many possibilities there.

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wmwm   9/25/2010 12:16:04 AM
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Years ago I remember Intel showing USB3 off with twin optical links in the plug, to work up to 100Gb/s, the cable carrying power. I remember Intel making that great leap into laser on silicon, which I would have imagined greatly moved forward their time schedule and greatly brought down their price points (referred to in the link posted before http://www.trustedreviews.com/networking/news/2010/07/28/Intel-Reveals-Faster-than-Light-Peak-Technology/p1 ). I remember a laptop with working Light peak on it being demonstrated, was that running of a chip like the silicon laser demonstration in the link above? I predict that Intel is interested in moving lightpeak technology in the silicon laser form into a on board interconnect, then on chip, eventually maybe, one day, more and more of an optical chip. I wonder how this will relate to future versions of the terascale processor. About pricing, what is $2 a port off a premium system, and after a while when and if the silicon laser technology feature comes down to consumer market a lot less than that. Will people prefer their system to be outdated too quickly? Having a port that will be mainstream/dominate by end of their systems life is useful and worth extra money on a premium system.

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damngoodengineer   9/24/2010 11:28:32 PM
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There is nothing preventing having power provided (by wires) in the same cable.

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Warren3   9/24/2010 7:19:21 PM
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Oflife might be right and it would indeed be a pity... but Intel (w/Apple it seems) will bring it on. Followers to follow, with late adopters and laggards getting punished by end users in the marketplace in all likelihood.

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