Design Con 2015
Breaking News
News & Analysis

Microsoft calls for 16-core server SoCs

1/27/2011 08:03 PM EST
14 comments
NO RATINGS
More Related Links
View Comments: Threaded | Newest First | Oldest First
Warren3
User Rank
CEO
re: Microsoft calls for 16-core server SoCs
Warren3   1/27/2011 9:40:42 PM
NO RATINGS
Dileep continues to speak plainly and clearly. Sort of refreshing. According to The Linley Group, Dileep was giving his talk as a conference keynote entitled "Engineering Efficiency in Data Centers"... just the kind of topic where an ARM fanboy would want to hear good things about processor extremities. Dileep is reported to be a Distinguished Engineer, Global Foundation Services at Microsoft.

rick merritt
User Rank
Author
re: Microsoft calls for 16-core server SoCs
rick merritt   1/28/2011 4:45:01 PM
NO RATINGS
Yes, a panel of low power server processor vendors at the end of the day--including ARM, Calxeda and Marvell were upbeat but humble about their prospects...more TK

Warren3
User Rank
CEO
re: Microsoft calls for 16-core server SoCs
Warren3   1/28/2011 5:51:56 PM
NO RATINGS
"more TK"?

Kinnar
User Rank
CEO
re: Microsoft calls for 16-core server SoCs
Kinnar   1/28/2011 6:33:42 PM
NO RATINGS
The two technologies are not at the comparison as ARM is just getting entered in the the PC segment, and it will take some time to get matured there and then it will take its ride on the server segment, as the server segment is more time and mission critical where as domestic PC segment is not that much time and mission critical.

elctrnx_lyf
User Rank
Manager
re: Microsoft calls for 16-core server SoCs
elctrnx_lyf   1/28/2011 7:01:25 PM
NO RATINGS
Microsoft disclosing their server design to the vendors is really interesting. They are making it open to all and want other small businesses to actually follow a standard solution. This will give great visibility to the supplier of critical components in these servers and could actually result in more sales for the suppliers.

rick merritt
User Rank
Author
re: Microsoft calls for 16-core server SoCs
rick merritt   1/28/2011 7:09:11 PM
NO RATINGS
There was a decent panel on low power server processors yesterday. No killer news but some interesting insights I will post later.

rick merritt
User Rank
Author
re: Microsoft calls for 16-core server SoCs
rick merritt   1/28/2011 7:12:22 PM
NO RATINGS
OK a couple insights: ARM now has a full time director level exec working on smoothing the path to the data center for the architecture by assuring solid ports and optimized performance of Java enterprise software, Linux OSes and other key libraries. Tilera has some design wins for its 32-bit, 64-core VLIW part in data centers, but said Top Tier data centers require 64- bit support even for the Web server systems, and Marvell said everyone is evaluating its four-core A9 SoC but no one has made any purchase decisions yet.

fergie1965
User Rank
Rookie
re: Microsoft calls for 16-core server SoCs
fergie1965   1/29/2011 12:20:44 AM
NO RATINGS
Rick Thanks for the shout out! A quick clarification - Marvell has an architecture licence. So the processor core in the Armada-XP device is not the Cortex-A9. It is their own processor. But utilizes the same version of the ARM instruction set as the Cortex-A9 Ian

Robotics Developer
User Rank
Rookie
re: Microsoft calls for 16-core server SoCs
Robotics Developer   1/28/2011 10:07:03 PM
NO RATINGS
So if I understand the current approach: Microsoft wants to pick up on the ARM based designs with Windows BUT is not interested in ARM based servers. Is there significant differences between porting Windows to ARM platforms and using that port for servers? If the work is similar than the effort is already going to be made (I think?). Just wondering what I missed..

fergie1965
User Rank
Rookie
re: Microsoft calls for 16-core server SoCs
fergie1965   1/29/2011 12:27:30 AM
NO RATINGS
This perspective is based on my prior experience with embedded applications. If you want a specific answer to your OS question, then you will need to address Microsoft.... The big challenge with the embedded operating system vendors that I have worked with in my last (too many!) years is that the port to a new architecture is a relatively small part of the total cost. The bigger cost is ensuring that software runs with a myriad of applications, supporting the product in the market and then and then continually driven forward (while ensuring that legacy apps will still keep working with the new revision etc).

t.alex
User Rank
Rookie
re: Microsoft calls for 16-core server SoCs
t.alex   1/29/2011 11:35:20 AM
NO RATINGS
It is obvious ARM is mainly for mobile devices still. For servers, it is a different story.

fergie1965
User Rank
Rookie
re: Microsoft calls for 16-core server SoCs
fergie1965   1/29/2011 6:05:42 PM
NO RATINGS
~2/3rds of ARM shipments go into mobile applications. Of, the other 1/3rd, a lot of these units go in the microcontroller area. But there is a pretty respectable amount of "A" profile processors into automotive infotainment, TVs and other home gadgets. Definitely on a path to number 1 in the digital TV space with 3 of the top 4 now shipping ARM Powered platforms. But yes, the point in time where ARM has meaningful market share in applications such as servers and networking infrastructure equipment is years, not months, away.

resistion
User Rank
CEO
re: Microsoft calls for 16-core server SoCs
resistion   1/29/2011 1:52:51 PM
NO RATINGS
Msft still too small a server player.

rick merritt
User Rank
Author
re: Microsoft calls for 16-core server SoCs
rick merritt   1/31/2011 1:28:22 AM
NO RATINGS
@Robotics Developer: Just to clarify, the Windows division of Msoft will support ARM in its next-gen product. Dileep, who is a thought leader in the division of Msoft that runs big data centers, is more bullish on x86 retaining its dominance in the server-system space than he is on ARM making any big in-roads there anything soon given the huge s/w support issues beyond Windows.

Radio
LATEST ARCHIVED BROADCAST
EE Times Senior Technical Editor Martin Rowe will interview EMC engineer Kenneth Wyatt.
Top Comments of the Week
Like Us on Facebook

Datasheets.com Parts Search

185 million searchable parts
(please enter a part number or hit search to begin)
EE Times on Twitter
EE Times Twitter Feed
Flash Poll