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3/2/2011 10:24 PM EST
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Jeff Dickey   3/19/2011 2:00:17 AM
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It's funny that the app count has been a major competitive advantage for Apple. That used to be the excuse Windows defenders gave for never even looking at the Mac. Now that the shoe is firmly on the other foot, the phrases are the same. Only the names have been switched. The Android market is fragmenting and burning by chasing the low end, with no truly useful, unique innovation able to stand up and say, "We let you do THIS while using the information you already have!" They're too busy shouting, "we're just as good, but $10 less." Not nearly the same excitement level. The problem I and a lot of other longer-term customers have with Apple is that they succeeded by doing two diametrically opposite things. They saved themselves as a personal-computer company when they embraced the idea of building value on top of open standards, on excellence, and by providing maximum support and minimum friction to developers. That was The Mac Way. The iDevice Way, on the other hand, delivers a quite good, reasonably discoverable UX, but closing and controlling everything else as much as they could get away with. They even tried to slap down people WHO WERE MAKING MONEY FOR APPLE but using development tools not under Apple's firm control. How unMaclike is that? Apple, the Mac company (as the Apple II company before it) is a remarkable company, that engenders passionate loyalty from its customers and partners. Apple the iDevice company… is something else. Yes, I'll buy an iPad 2 — because, to use the phrase, I've got itches that that can scratch better than anything else currently available, or anything that any currently visible competitors plausibly offer. But no matter how silky-smooth the UX is, I'm not going to be *as* happy with it as I have been with my Macs. I OWN my Macs. So long as the Apple business model remains what it is, though, I'll feel like I'm only BORROWING or renting my iDevices, and I'll resent the moves Apple is making to make the Mac more iDevice-like.

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VincePG   3/10/2011 5:33:34 PM
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This is always the problem with Moto and Samsung and other hardware providers. People who are not engineers don't care about the specs of the hardware performance. Apple figured out a long time ago its ergonomics, industrial design and applications that sells technology, not the hardware specification. I’d hate to be the Moto or Samsung marketing guy: higher price and fewer applications, but our spec is arguably better. Also, the tablet market is new. No one has defined what "better" is yet. The safe bet is what ever Apple provides is "better". Anything more(feature-wise) will be deemed unnecessary by the market.

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jubilee9r   3/9/2011 4:37:53 AM
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Most people purchase a computing device like a tablet on the basis if its' perceived functionality and ease of use. The first in the market sets the standards. The other tablet makers must provide better functionality or be less expensive to compete. How can Apple lose?

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Jeff.Petro   3/8/2011 3:59:42 PM
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All companies can claim to have 1000 or 10,000 or even 100,000 apps. This is just a marketing number to obfuscate the clueless. Out of all those apps, I can bet you that the number of useful apps can be counted on one hand. Since all OS's have the same core (useful) apps, all platforms rate equal in my opinion. You'd be hard pressed to increase that specific app count on Apple, Android or Windows tablet/smartphone platforms. An app that makes fart sounds may be comical for the first hour or two, but in the end, alls that it means is that you are out of pocket another dollar.

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Duane Benson   3/8/2011 3:57:44 PM
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There's always been something different, but difficult to quantify, with Apple products. Certainly, there's a lot of gloss, polish and hype with Apple products, but it's more than that. Some people will say that they are more intuitive and easier to use, but it's more complex than that. You can probably find just as many people that say the opposite. I suspect that it's in the completeness and in the little details. Apple products are closer to the "TV" type, just turn it on and go than just about anything else. They aren't always the highest performing or the most feature rich, but they try to be complete and self-contained. If you're an upgrade person, that's not for you. Apple combines that completeness with a very well-thought out OS and fanatic marketing. It's the combination of those things that makes Apple stand out. Their market share will certainly drop as more tablet competitors join the market, but they will still stand out, even if they are eventually out-sold.

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phoenixdave   3/8/2011 3:37:48 PM
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I found it interesting how quickly the iPad became the "poor cousin", with Apple immediately dropping the price a significant amount If there is not much difference between the two, this makes the iPad a pretty good deal right now. Maybe they are perceiving the challenges ahead when the other tablets are released?

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jimcondon   3/6/2011 12:34:48 AM
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Motorola has said a wifi only Xoom is coming out for about $600 and the rumor mills are saying Sam's clubs have flyers for $539. At this price, the wifi only Xoom (with 32GB) is very competitive to the iPad2.

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LarryM99   3/4/2011 7:43:21 PM
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As far as the hardware is concerned, iPad2 is pretty much at parity with expectations for the current generation of Android tablets. Pricing isn't all that different as long as you compare equivalent specs, but iPad2 does provide more low-range models currently than Android (that may change soon). The apps for Android will develop more quickly, since they don't have to go through an approval gate. Personally, I'm curious to see what enhanced reality apps make use of the back-facing camera. I am waiting for Wifi-only, though. Larry M.

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any1   3/4/2011 3:02:02 PM
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The ipad2 does seem to be the tablet to which all others will be compared. But I agree with Robinho and others that while apps are important, once you reach a certain theshold more is not necessarily better. I believe the Android OS is likely to meet that test for most users in the near future. For other the other tablet operating systems out there it remains to be seen if they can reach reasonble app parity with Apple.

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GroovyGeek   3/4/2011 7:22:47 AM
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"Once the performance is adaquate, it's all about the Apps - most all seem to missing the key point. Competition is a good thing, but as much as I hate to say it - game over - Apple wins for the forseable future, with Google is a distant second." And you seem to be missing the point that Android now outships the iPhone.

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