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EUV delay will slow NAND supply growth

8/9/2011 08:49 PM EDT
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resistion
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resistion   1/2/2012 12:51:11 AM
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Sandisk position doesn't grasp manufacturing. Clearly BICS is more cost effective than higher resolution alone. For post-NAND just deposit different films.

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Diogenes53   8/12/2011 3:51:39 AM
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There is no need. And tool producers are happier if EUV fails as ASML et. al. sell double or triple the number of tools for double and triple patterning. Its a giant scam. Keep looking under the radar.

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Diogenes53   8/12/2011 3:48:56 AM
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Because so many corporate and academic institutions have invested billions of dollars in x-ray and need something to show for it. Because so many academic and corporate careers were and are invested in it. And because engineers didnt believe optical was doable and forgot the ubiquitous dictum: nice from far but far from nice. The closer you get to what appears to be the salvation, the uglier it gets.

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Nola   8/11/2011 5:49:06 AM
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Currently IC industries are working on 14nm technology with multiple immersion and other known techniques. I don't understand the need for such an expenssieve EUV for large scale manufacturing.

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rick merritt   8/10/2011 11:57:23 PM
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I'd love to hear any updates or concerns on EUV and/or nex-gen flash architectures

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pixies   8/10/2011 7:26:31 PM
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Well, cost is not everything. Magnetic memory is cheap but much slower. Also, why haven't the industry given up hope on EUV altogether?

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Diogenes53   8/10/2011 3:43:00 AM
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Check under the radar for a low cost alternative like imprint lithography. Nonvolatile memory producers (whether NAND or its successor, irrespective of design rule) have calculated they can never beat the cost of magnetic memory using either EUV (if it ever works) or double/triple/quadruple patterning with optical lithography. NVM producers enjoy the most elastic market in semiconductor-land and their holy grail is the disk drive market.

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resistion   8/9/2011 10:59:25 PM
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I think rather than worry about EUV, since they don't even need it, worry about how flash is going from 4f^2 to 6-8f^2 per cell, resulting in the need to go 3d. Sandisk also is new to RRAM, they should worry about that too.

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