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8/15/2011 10:23 PM EDT
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p_g   8/22/2011 4:34:29 PM
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Well said. Its just like other US companies who's CEO came in flight when there were trials for Bankruptcy, where as Chinese airline CEO came in his own flight in economy seat by paying for himself. I think this shows how sincere is the management towards making company to work.

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"carol"   8/22/2011 4:01:39 PM
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Ever green (ESLR) need a good CEO!!! I used to own this stock and then sold all once I saw a news about the companies decision to close a facilities and build a new one in Devens location, but they do not have a solide plan. Later on, the compnay announced to open or buy ( I do not remembered the details)another one in china, and then last yeat announced looking fro buyer for the Deven facility. You see, when the stock is high they so not trying to make a solid fundation but spending or unwisely expanind... They new a better management. Plus, MA state government offer them help with sibidies or something, they still can not make money. I has been in dot com and saw "people burn money within weeks" buy unwisely expandind, offer free to empliyee, becasue those money are free...

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MAUP   8/18/2011 2:41:01 PM
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Natural solar energy collectors, i.e. trees, has taken more than 3 billion years to develop, yet they still reach an efficiency of only 0.1% In a span of a few decades, human solar energy collectors have reached an efficiency of 20%. Quite impressive, don't you think? In business, as in biological evolution, there will be individual winners and losers. But life goes on and improves, because a loser will just make room for winners who are better fit.

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Sanjib.A   8/17/2011 6:17:28 PM
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A few days back there was an article posted with the title "Report: solar demand gains, revenues flat". http://www.eetimes.com/electronics-news/4218714/Report--solar-demand-gains--revenues-flat From what I could interpret from that article (..."China, and India will emerge to drive significant volumes, and the U.S. will thrive given the government’s support of tax equity through 2016 and a myriad of state-level programs, according to Lux Research..."), I think, in the current economic situation in US and Europe, not much could be expected as investment from the respective Governments. Hence, in this situation, looks to me that Evergreen has chosen the best possible alternative to survive.

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cdhmanning   8/17/2011 3:21:05 AM
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Ignoring the pesky details has long been something unscrupulous sceintists and their promters have done. Remember the promises of superconductors in the 1980s. Lossless superconducting power grids all fine if you ignore the energy costs of refrigerating thousands of miles of cables to well below zero. And fly cars... easy enough if you ignore the problems of landing/take off and that car drivers struggle to control a car in 2D. How is adding a third dimension going to work.

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cdhmanning   8/17/2011 3:17:12 AM
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2kWhrper day is only a summer peak output. On average you'll get only about half that.

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wishboneash   8/16/2011 8:17:55 PM
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Well said.

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BLinder   8/16/2011 8:04:49 PM
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Well these guys (ribbon solar) were way to arrogant during the early phases of technology development, and then got stuck on a platform that became dated over time. I think this is called Darwian bankruptcy.

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Paulos   8/16/2011 7:47:09 PM
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The bankruptcy of Evergreen should be seen as market judgment on their proprietary string-ribbon process, and not a general indication of the viability of the overall solar supply chain, in the US or elsewhere.

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aefrgqergqwergqerg   8/16/2011 7:33:44 PM
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@DrQuine: "We keep hearing about radical new methods for manufacturing low cost solar cells. " Yes, and these methods are promulgated by scientists, not manufacturing engineers. I had a friend at one of these solar start-ups. They were going to make panels for way under a dollar a watt. Then they were surprised when the slitter for the panels got all gunked up with the TeCu or whatever goo they were printing on the substrate. Then they actually hired a mechanical engineer to put the substrate in a real panel with a glass cover and enough structure to mount to a roof. Ooppsee, the 50 cents a watt went to 3 bucks. Some scientists are arrogant egomaniacs that think they are a smarter than engineers. That is why it is is so likely these brainiac outfits will fail. Engineering is science at low cost, and that is way harder than science alone.

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