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GlobalFoundries charts road to 14 nm

8/30/2011 03:00 PM EDT
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Robotics Developer   8/30/2011 5:00:54 PM
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It is nice to see the roadmap! I wonder what the future holds for the processes beyond 14nm? The concept of a 3Ghz dual core ARM 9 is really appealing. Just for now I will have to wait...

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ANON1255185289979   8/30/2011 8:33:53 PM
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There is a real challenge in process development and control of 3D and sub-22nm structures and patterns. Metrology roadmaps have identified the need for 3D microscopy of 40 to one and better depth to width measurement and imaging which is not avaiable today. Perhaps ATIC should consider world leadership in this critical area.

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yalanand   9/5/2011 10:16:37 AM
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@Attoman I agree with you that there is real challenge in process development. I feel leakage will be biggest gating facotr. I am not sure if high-K dielectric will solve all the leakage problems at 14nm.

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gutieaphd   8/31/2011 12:38:02 AM
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Has the company presented a roadmap for making money or at least not bleeding their soul out? That would be roadmap that would shock the world; roadmaps based on dreams, delays and losses are hardly worth discussing. Keep the losses WELL hidden from the Abu Dhabians, we might be able to rebalance energy trade on account of them! Good job GloFo, make up those mammoth operating losses on wafer volume! :-(

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SiliconAsia   8/31/2011 3:52:56 AM
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You got the point!

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Archeologist   8/31/2011 9:15:40 AM
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It is not a bad deal if Abu Dabi keeps unemployment in semiconductor industry low in USA and Germany

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wilber_xbox   8/31/2011 2:30:39 PM
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yeah, its surprising to read only the future roadmap. Do you know how well they fair quarterly?

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SiliconAsia   9/4/2011 5:50:54 PM
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I presume they don't have much to say about how well they fair quarterly or entire year. We will soon know by AMD announcement how many 32nm is being shipped if it is being shipped at all.

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resistion   8/31/2011 12:40:31 AM
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If they already made the jump to DP at 20 nm, they will re-use that at 14 nm. EUV is already late for their 14 nm development.

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greenpattern   8/31/2011 9:02:01 AM
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If graphics and networking require different packaging from mobile, it's a totally different game from just silicon, and Global has virtually no control in this aspect.

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Archeologist   8/31/2011 9:10:22 AM
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AMD is better of counting on TSMC than GF roadmap on paper

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docdivakar   8/31/2011 10:51:06 PM
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@Rick Merritt: it was good to meet with you again at GloFlo's conference. In the afternoon tracks, I sat in the manufacturing track and got some good info on their packaging and MEMS plans. I am not how ever sold on the fab-less model for large volume MEMS which is still an IDM play led by ST & TI. @greenpattern: you are some what partially correct. The gray-shaded area is like this: if there is backend fab activity (like flipchip, RDL, Si interposers) in a product, then the options are wide open, a fab like GloFlo can get that action though packaging houses can also play. But being upstream in that flow gives fabs an advantage. Dr. MP Divakar

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greenpattern   9/1/2011 12:37:43 AM
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@Dr. Divakar: what I mean is, the packaging houses are holding the cards, rather than the silicon foundries.

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docdivakar   9/1/2011 4:00:13 PM
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@greenpattern: I agree... how ever, in the evolving 3D stacked IC ecosystem, even though packaging houses hold the cards, the business model is not yet clear as to who 'owns' the yield issues! So far, 3DIC via stacking has been a niche play for a few companies but its real growth can come from fabless design houses who can productize the technology with applications (of which software is a big part of innovation). When that happens, who do they engage first? Foundries or the packaging houses, or both? The last one may be the obvious choice but my hunch is not many fabs or packaging houses are willing to give a minute of their work day to an ASIC startup or small companies. Foundries like GloFo, if they want to spur product innovation, can certainly do a lot more by leveraging their partnerships they just announced with Amkor. MP Divakar

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help.fulguy   8/31/2011 11:49:18 PM
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Hey Rick, Come On. Where are the tough questions? Did you ask about the yield on 32nm? Did you just take their answer that they are done with 32nm! Why cant you ask the tough questions like an honest journalist would do! EETimes is becoming more of a PR company than a Technical oriented company! What the heck is going on with Llano supply issue? Is it an issue with their process? Whats with Bulldozer delay? Come on.

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SiliconAsia   9/4/2011 5:53:42 PM
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I guess EEtimes also likes to have an oil money so can't say anything bad!!

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