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5/27/2012 04:02 PM EDT
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_hm
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_hm   5/27/2012 4:26:17 PM
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Good news for Ireland. Also, this is sound strategy for Intel to distribute risk over wider geographical area.

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resistion   5/27/2012 4:51:31 PM
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"and beyond" is a new qualification here, used more than once. As if there will be no more equipment changes.

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Peter Clarke   5/28/2012 2:08:40 PM
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I am not sure how you draw the conclusion about equipment changes. To me it merely means that these factories will be used to produce silicon at 14-nm and node(s) beyond 14-nm, such as 11-nm.

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resistion   5/28/2012 2:42:51 PM
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Previously, the new fabs were viewed one node at a time, like just 32 nm, or just 22 nm. How can you plan its use for N+2, when the modules have not even been defined yet.

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KB3001   5/28/2012 3:18:15 PM
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It's just talk resistion. By then things could change of course.

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KB3001   5/28/2012 12:45:09 AM
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Good news for Ireland and Europe.

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goafrit   5/30/2012 11:29:18 AM
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You know the Irish government has shown that governments can influence the decision of firms to allocate global resources. They have provided a good tax model. With good schools, they have the future in their hands. Intel and other firms are going to Ireland.

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wilber_xbox   5/28/2012 3:09:33 AM
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Ireland and Europe are struggling with their economy so Intel has more chips in its hand for investment negotiation.

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KB3001   5/28/2012 3:16:57 PM
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Not sure the Irish Government can do a lot on this front these days :-) It's a logical decision considering the alternatives. They needed the fab to be in Europe and Ireland is the logical conclusion given their existing infrastucture there.

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agk   5/28/2012 1:58:22 PM
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The government and the Industrial Development Agency offer competitive financial and tax incentives.Also quality educated people are there. So Intel is in Ireland.

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Kinnar   5/28/2012 7:13:53 PM
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1 billion US$ is a very huge amount Intel has invested in Ireland. It is a great luck for the people of Ireland that they will be able to participate in Research and Development with a great company.

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lfascian   5/29/2012 6:06:51 PM
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Nothing compared to UMC, http://www.eetimes.com/electronics-news/4373757/Photo-Gallery--UMC-breaks-ground-on-new-fab The taiwanese company will invest $8 billion in a new fab in Tainan.

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lenny79   5/30/2012 8:47:22 AM
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Nothing compares to intel, they are in the process of building 2 new fabs in Arizona and Oregon, each costing around 6 billion plus the investment in Ireland retrofitting for the new process. Intel will always lead the industy. Nice one F24 see you soon for some installs.

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resistion   5/29/2012 1:22:12 AM
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Yes, my other impression was that Ireland had tough breaks in previous bids for 22 nm, 32 nm, and 45 nm, losing to Israel and US sites. And IIRC, they were downsized? So maybe now, there can be hirebacks.

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daleste   5/29/2012 2:11:13 AM
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I understand outsourcing, but I'm not sure i understand why this would go to Ireland and not the US or Asia.

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cdhmanning   5/31/2012 1:33:16 AM
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Tax breaks. "Made in EU" also goes a long way to getting preferential treatment through Europe.

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DMcCunney   6/1/2012 7:51:08 PM
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Intel has two fabs set for US production, and already has a presence in Ireland. Why Ireland? Existing relationships, existing infrastructure, an investment friendly government that wants the business and a depressed economy that needs it, a pool of educated workers to draw from, production in an EU country, and a place that speaks English as the native language.

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m00nshine   5/29/2012 3:25:49 AM
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"Outsourcing" makes it sound like intel Ireland is not part of intel Corp (not true). That being said 14nm is already slated for 2 US fabs...

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seaEE   5/29/2012 3:52:24 AM
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Luck O' the Irish! ;) It didn't seem many years ago when the term "sub-micron" was used. And now we are working on 14nm...

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resistion   5/30/2012 1:06:20 AM
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Who will be next to 14 nm?

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Peter Clarke   5/30/2012 6:40:03 AM
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Intel aren't there yet. But assuming they make it, it looks like Samsung would be second. Samsung might even be first with 14-nm for a memory process? And then TSMC?

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resistion   5/31/2012 12:35:38 AM
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Good picks. Interestingly, IBM and Samsung already showed off 14 nm silicon, but we still haven't seen the Intel 14 nm SRAM yet.

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docdivakar   6/1/2012 12:40:10 AM
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Would any one care to guess what the yield numbers will be for the first year or two for such advanced nodes?! There were enough hiccups even for the 28nm node that TSMC was not divulging that number (not sure if they do now)... MP Divakar

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fabsurplus.com   6/1/2012 4:11:34 PM
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Although the property bubble and "creative" banking have left the Irish with a huge hole in their budget, the fact is that the "real" economy, especially the industrial one, is going very well, thanks to the low tax rates Irish business enjoys. It looks like Irish Engineers and Scientists stand a good chance of trading their way out of the financial disaster created for them by the banks. Stephen Howe www.fabsurplus.com Japan-Italy-Ireland-USA Contact us now to buy and sell used equipment and enjoy the benefits of cost-saving.

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