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7/27/2012 11:59 AM EDT
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rick merritt
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re: UMC set to beat TSMC to FinFET process
rick merritt   7/28/2012 3:40:11 AM
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Go UMC! I was impressed with management when I visited earlier this year. They are smart, open and engaged. But given history, a process deal with IBM is no slam dunk. Silk anyone?

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HS_SemiPro   7/28/2012 4:34:13 AM
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Tech cannot be fully developed yet, as IBM or its JDA partners aren't introducing it at 20nm. So more development would definitely be needed. However IBM JDA partners have been co-developing tech for many generations including ST, GF, & Samsung, so I am not too worried for IBM technology

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resistion   7/29/2012 9:04:39 PM
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I don't see why TSMC can't offer a FinFET option at 20 nm.

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FoundryMKT   7/30/2012 12:13:56 AM
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No, I don't think so. You need more study on the progress of IBM's FinFET technologies.

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resistion   7/30/2012 12:34:04 AM
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There is one report of TSMC preparing 20 nm FinFET for ARM. http://www.electronicsweekly.com/blogs/david-manners-semiconductor-blog/2012/07/arm-tsmc-leading-intel-in-soc.html

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BJ-5   7/30/2012 2:37:52 AM
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Not a credible story. TSMC has 2 year lead at 28mm

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Peter Clarke   7/30/2012 2:08:54 PM
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TSMC refers to their first FinFET process as 16-nm.......but ASML and UMC have both said that regardless of that these initial foundry FinFET processes are called they will be the application of FinFET front-end processing to the same back-end interconnect used at 20-nm

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chipmonk0   7/30/2012 10:47:14 PM
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not to mention IBM's pushing HKMG first -a one node wonder that blew up when scaled down to 28 nm

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Chipguy1   7/31/2012 2:23:27 AM
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Peter, Yes. All data seems to suggest foundry 16nm node is finfet with 20nm design rules

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resistion   7/31/2012 5:16:36 AM
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Lithographically, foundry's 28 nm should be close to Intel's 22 nm at about 45 nm half-pitch. But the fin process adds extra cost without helping transistor density. I'd be curious if foundry 28 nm transistors perform so poorly against Intel's 22 nm FinFET.

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