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10/9/2012 04:26 AM EDT
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Phluph   10/10/2012 3:52:49 PM
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Is there politicking and to some extent protectionism involved? No doubt, but there is still a very valid concern here. Given the direct er, influence, the Chinese gov has over any supplier on the mainland I agree with the report. Until those companies provide proof of innocence - as in trusted 3rd party verification of code used in their equipment - then it is far far better to err on the side of security. That said, I would think that the same applies to Chinese suspicions on equipment (and software) they import. There is good reason and it's not just 'business' that the Chinese gov has pushed and supported their home-grown telco and computer biz. Along those lines they (and Russia) are also the largest users of Linux simply because they *know* what is in the code.

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larryang   10/10/2012 3:42:00 PM
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They're using Chinese court case principles...

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larryang   10/10/2012 3:40:47 PM
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The US lack of an industrial policy is an industrial policy. Imagine if the US propped up telecom or computing like it does for finance or real estate...

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perhaps12345   10/10/2012 3:36:37 PM
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I've actually worked for a company competing against Huawei and ZTE. The playing field is most definitely not level. The amount of Chinese government backed loans spurting into these companies has nothing to do with fair competition. As far as crooked business practices go it is well known in the industry that this has happened. To a certain extent it was just that these were normal business practices in China and they were surprised that it wasn't in the west. Finally China's internal markets are MUCH more protected than the west's. Until they open up, create a legal system that doesn't do their government's will and float their currency I'd be happy to see more of this. And no I don't think the Chinese people are our enemies but I suspect members of their government are.

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Battar   10/10/2012 3:09:23 PM
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On the other hand, The Chinese manufacturer or even government could sell "unauthorized" access to the equipment to the US government. This could be especially useful if the real enemies of the US - countries where US flag burning is routine in street demonstrations - also purchase telecom equipment from these companies.

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george.leopold   10/10/2012 1:58:03 PM
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If they wanted to, Huawei and ZTE probably could incorporate capabilities into their telecom gear that could be used for surveillance, although the House Intelligence Committee provided little or no evidence that they have done so. When asked about evidence of spying, committee members said Huawei and ZTE officials wouldn't answer their direct questions on the matter. That said, another large enterprise exists that is fully capable of sweeping up nearly all the world's communications whether or not it is encrypted. The name of this organization is, of course, the National Security Agency. NSA insiders like William Binney, who worked on top-secret surveillance programs during the Cold War, have revealed that NSA has been using the surveillance technologies originally designed for foreign gathering to spy on Americans. Why isn't the House Intelligence Committee investigating this?

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wave.forest   10/10/2012 11:32:39 AM
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I think that the threat to national security is an excuse. The real reason is the lack of confidence of competition. Huawei is very successful in Europe, such as UK's 21CN. No one has challenged Huawei's threat here. The answer is E///, ALU and NSN. To look at US, Cisco appears afraid of the march of Huawei and ZTE and all the semi's are kissing their arses to provide them the most advanced chips with peanuts price. I would like to see the Americans stand up to face the competition to make something like iPhone rather than moan pathetically like the Congress.

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sprite0022   10/10/2012 12:24:50 AM
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well, seems chinese govt need to block lucent as step 1, Microsoft or intel could be the next target...

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microe   10/9/2012 8:23:17 PM
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No surprise. Evidence is not necessary at all. Just like what happened to Toyota. Samsung will be the next if it keeps growing.

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microe   10/9/2012 8:11:35 PM
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Chinese should really be educated by your "China is NOT our friend". I believe the majority of Chinese are not aware of that. They are still in their dream of a peaceful world. BTW, you want a friend, you get a friend. If you want an enemy, you will get an enemy.

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