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1/9/2013 05:08 PM EST
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ChipConnoisseur
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ChipConnoisseur   1/9/2013 10:35:29 PM
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They seem to be increasingly more desperate, and are starting to lie about how good their new chips really are, as a consequence of that: http://www.theverge.com/2013/1/9/3856050/intel-candid-explains-misleading-7w-ivy-bridge-marketing

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help.fulguy   1/9/2013 11:17:35 PM
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There you go again Ricky. With your Bullsh**ing all over. Write Facts not opinions. I may have to give you a course on journalism.

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help.fulguy   1/9/2013 11:20:40 PM
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@ Chipconn***, give me a TDP number for any PowerPC or ARM processor. Lets see who publishes it on thier website.

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vdara   1/9/2013 11:41:51 PM
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Yeah, this is a typical marketing thing. Engineering point of view, it'd be better to just say 13W TDP, 10W cTDP Down, and 7W SDP. But are they increasingly more desperate? Probably not. According to http://www.anandtech.com/show/6536/arm-vs-x86-the-real-showdown/13, the TDP of Exynos 5250 Dual can be 8W (4W CPU + 4W GPU). Now, the question is could the "7W" IVB core outperforms A15 core by 2?

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krisi   1/10/2013 2:55:18 AM
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I think people overestimate growth of the tablet market...sure it is cute...however once you get over novelty factor there is nothing serious you can do with it...in addition my iPad half of the time can't display things (due to Flash embedded on Internet everywhere)...so laptops will remain the main vehicle for working, Intel will be OK

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Ogemaniac   1/10/2013 5:28:47 AM
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Agreed. My wife and I like our iPad. It has its niche in our lifes. Its purchase likely did replace a laptop purchase. But here's the thing: we have no reason whatsoever to buy another tablet soon. The next thing? To replace her older laptop. Then eventually my less old one. Perhaps the cycle will repeat from there.

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Gil C   1/10/2013 9:25:11 AM
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So Far the IBM computer model is valid Big Server Network (Internet) many clients the problem is with improving capabilities of Server & higher speed network the clients needs are lower every day Also Clients needs mobility (RF rampup) low power (battery weigth) Low cost . Here there is a potential issue with Intel fab cost model Strength of Intel was also Windows , but this is changing fast Hope this remarkable company will find a way to keep leardership but it will be not easy

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DCH0   1/10/2013 6:17:41 PM
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I do lots on my iPad including commenting on EE Times articles. I do not need flash since there are aps for all the major content providers such as CNN. The big differentiator is the tablet is for content consumption and the notebook or desktop is for content creation.

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bruzzer2   1/10/2013 6:41:48 PM
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Intel sales into smart phones, tablets, TV, smart signage are still low experimental volumes, although volume ramp is expected by this analyst to be much greater than many anticipate into Haswell derivative generation. For 2012 through 2013 end, Intel manufactured approximately 24,882,339 Atom’s of all grades with review sources stating Pennfield/Medfield SOC phone operating power 18 mW to 1W. And for Tablet 2W idle to 4W active. Centerton Server SOC TDP 6.1 to 8.5w is aimed for 5w Duals at next generation Avoton, where industry sources suggest public power disclosure is an Intel disinformation overstated by 20%. In addition for the Android/Chrome OS market, Intel has manufactured approximately 7,387,206 Celeron 7xx/8xx Series, average price $102, TDP 17w for systems that don’t need batteries because they have a power supply. This analyst believes for open integration market, sans vertically integrated consumer electronics producers who fabricate their own ARM designs, Intel will be unstoppable in TV on the ability to supply good enough processor performance on the monopoly advantage of their price for dice area less than whole production cost. Finally Intel is in the process of dumping a combination 16,714,451 Sandy Bride Celeron Value Desktop and Value Mobile TDP 35w and 17W respectively for prices substantially less than Intel variable and fixed cost which is a continuin antitrust violation; $50 and $86 respectively. At these prices for CPU/GPU combos including provided at no cost in a bundled sales package, for COM in tethered systems Intel is systematically disabling ARM in its established industrial and commercial niches and surrounding ARM in its mobile stronghold. Ivy Bridge dumping begins Q1 2013 with Celeron and Pentium brands continuing to displace competitive processors on Intel monopoly advantages. And where there is an actual cash sale, displaces channel financial ability to purchase anything else. Mike Bruzzone Camp Marketing

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Tamza   1/10/2013 8:28:27 PM
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@iniewski: someone has to say 'the emperor has no clothes'. That is NOT to say that Intel will remain the winner, but that tablets are not replacing laptops-desktops, but a large segment of the 'casual' market. Perhaps at some point they will intrude into the smartphone market.

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