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6/5/2013 06:37 AM EDT
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maqua
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maqua   6/5/2013 9:44:45 AM
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Is iPad 4 included?

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mcgrathdylan   6/5/2013 1:03:13 PM
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Actually, the iPad 4 was not among the products listed in the ruling. Please forgive the error. The products listed were: iPhone 4 (AT&T models); iPhone 3GS (AT&T models); iPhone 3 (AT&T models); iPad 3G (AT&T models); and iPad 2 3G (AT&T models) The ruling can be viewed here: http://www.usitc.gov/secretary/fed_reg_notices/337/337-794_notice06042013sgl.pdf

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maqua   6/6/2013 12:41:31 AM
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Thank you very much for the link for the ruling!

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Duane Benson   6/5/2013 6:37:10 PM
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Are the "3" models still being imported and sold? If not, that would certainly reduce the impact of the ruling. Regardl3ess, I'll be really surprised if it ends up going into to place. I suppose it does happen, but t seems pretty rare that a product so popular from such a big company would actually be turned away at the border.

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old account Frank Eory   6/6/2013 12:09:47 AM
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The "3" models are no longer being imported or sold.

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Bert22306   6/5/2013 8:16:21 PM
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This is the bad karma I was referring to, during that absurd trial last year.

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chanj0   6/5/2013 10:35:16 PM
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This seems to be a reply from Samsung that some of their products are being blocked in Europe because of their violation of Apple's patents. It is the inevitable result of patent war; it does no good to no one.

old account Frank Eory
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old account Frank Eory   6/6/2013 12:38:09 AM
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Note that the patent in question is a "standard essential patent". The holder of such a patent is expected to offer to license it to anyone who wants to use it, with fair, reasonable and non-discriminatory licensing terms. This may be a victory for Samsung, but I wonder if it isn't a blow to standards bodies? The FRAND terms for standad essential patents are fundamental in getting companies to adopt a standard and use it in their products. I have not been able to find any news story that says whether Apple offered to pay the license fee and Samsung refused, or not. If in fact that is what happened, this ruling takes on a much greater meaning than just Apple vs. Samsung. Disclaimer: As always, the opinions expressed here are my own.

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daleste   6/6/2013 1:54:42 AM
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It is interesting to watch the battle between samsung and Apple. I guess since Obama can overturn it, he will.

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resistion   6/6/2013 2:20:16 AM
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Too many patents for different features go into a product, this could happen a lot more often.

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Robotics Developer   6/6/2013 2:32:08 AM
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I wonder what happens to support and service for all the current owners of these import banded devices? Is there a way to get replacements, parts, or is the consumer the one who gets hurt? While I may not have the patience to read through all the legalize I would think that the only way to get a company's attention would be with a combination of import blocks and fines. Are there any fines involved here?

old account Frank Eory
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old account Frank Eory   6/6/2013 6:11:25 PM
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No. ITC has no authority to award monetary damages. It's only punitive weapon is to ban importation. Federal courts, on the other hand, can either award monetary damages, ban importation, or both. Note that in last year's Apple victory over Samsung in federal court, the court awarded monetary damages but did not ban the importation of the affected Samsung devices.

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Robotics Developer   6/7/2013 2:41:54 AM
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Frank, thanks for the clarification! Now it looks like both importing and a federal court damage award makes this a one two punch. Is there any interest between the parties to fix and license these or has everyone now just going to move on..?

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Chipguy1   6/8/2013 10:51:13 PM
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Samsung’s chip FRAND will not cost Apple that much even of Apple pays

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