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9/4/2012 09:50 PM EDT
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junko.yoshida
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junko.yoshida   9/7/2012 11:39:24 PM
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Thanks for posting the video link, AnySilicon. Naveed, OpenSilicon CEO, speaks very concisely and clearly of the essence of design lite concept. Very well done.

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sprite0022   9/7/2012 1:16:26 AM
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it's common sense that close relatives should not work in the same dept etc. If they do it's legitimate for people to doubt their credentials. maybe only someone naive like Junko will believe everything from their mouths.

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sprite0022   9/7/2012 12:23:28 AM
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ok, to be fair Weili is somewhere between HTC's cher wang and melinda Gates. about exactly how much a co-founder she is will remain a mystery... for us. her husband knows .. everything, but I bet he won't mind if she lies or exaggerates somewhere. to prove her skill , she better head up a business on her own and show a clean picture to other ppl. but she might never do it since there is tons of excuses...

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docdivakar   9/6/2012 4:31:16 PM
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Junko, much of what VeriSilicon is offering is also done by many Indian design services companies... but with one major difference -foundry liaisons where VeriSilicon has a clear advantage of being in China. This would not have figured prominently if the Indian government was not dilly-dallying about tax breaks for semi fab investments (that has been going on for five years now!)... but that is another story! Perhaps Peter Clarke can chime in? MP Divakar

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docdivakar   9/6/2012 4:22:18 PM
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Junko, ditto! It seems like @sprite0022 has an axe to grind! Perhaps one should remind here that IEEE doesn't associate with hoaxes!: http://www.eetimes.com/electronics-news/4395301/Lofgren-hails-Silicon-Valley-patent-office Marvell as a hitech company is quite an accomplishment in the Silicon Valley. There are mixed reviews about work environment in the company. But its accomplishments would not have been possible without motivated employees contributing! MP Divakar

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JAK620   9/6/2012 3:45:33 PM
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Regarding the photo of the break room, I agree that it looks good on picture. But I highly suspect its utilization. The difference between a break room in the Silicon Valley and that of VeriSilicon is that VeriSilicon's break room is empty. Also if you look at the clock on the wall, it is showing a -2 hour time difference between Shanghai and Taipei, and a +1 hour time difference between Shanghai and Tokyo. It is totally wrong. If you have been to the area, it is common sense that Taipei and Shanghai are in the same time zone while Tokyo is one hour ahead. Not that this matters but cannot help to notice this fail.. LOL

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alex_m1   9/6/2012 1:07:15 PM
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The story mostly details the husband contribution(which seems major and quite interesting) and says little about the wife contribution to marvell(mainly marketing). And we get the impression that marvell's success is mostly due to engineering(maybe because it's spectrum - a newspaper for engineers). Reading a bit more about dei, i don't get some impression that she's a marketing wizard.

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junko.yoshida   9/6/2012 1:09:56 AM
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Hi, Sprite0022. We appreciate your posting comments, but we do not share your view about Weili Dai. Weili, together with Sehat Sutardja, CEO of Marvell, have built Marvell. They are a genuine team. There's a story on IEEE Spectrum that details their journey: http://spectrum.ieee.org/semiconductors/design/sehat-sutardja-an-engineering-marvell/0 Hope you will have a chance to read it and change your opinion.

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sprite0022   9/6/2012 1:04:46 AM
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this guy's sister Weili is quite a hoax, after some research... it' s hard to tell how much she depend on her husband CEO for success but forget to mention the CEO husband's credit isn't nice.

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casual3   9/5/2012 7:01:26 AM
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Design-lite can be afforded only by tier-1 system companies, this is due to the fact that Taiwan's Faraday marks up the IC turnkey cost by 60% (for over 40% gross margin), thus enabling companies like VeriSilicon to grab some market share. For fast evolving markets like tablet, such design-lite scheme does not work. This can be seen from China's top 3 tablet AP vendors: Allwinner, Rockchip and AMLogic. Allwinner goes from almost zero to close to 50% market share in China in a year because it designs most of its IPs in-house and has a much better turn-key solution than competitors. If you outsource like Rockchip used to be, you lose the competitiveness and market share. Still, design-lite is good for niche SoC markets where incumbents enjoy 90% gross margin (like certain video/image multimedia SoC).

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