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Apple processors: Designed differently but here to stay

2/20/2013 06:33 AM EST
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bobbytsai
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bobbytsai   2/21/2013 4:29:52 AM
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Any chance apple changes GPU vendor. ARM, Vivante, DMP ? Apple has shift Si/IP vendors quickly in the past.

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bobbytsai   2/21/2013 4:29:52 AM
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Any chance apple changes GPU vendor. ARM, Vivante, DMP ? Apple has shift Si/IP vendors quickly in the past.

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asic_pal   2/21/2013 6:53:32 AM
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I wonder if they don't. I saw couple of instances of bankruptcies or sell-off when Apple pulled plug on the suppliers.

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asic_pal   2/21/2013 6:53:32 AM
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I wonder if they don't. I saw couple of instances of bankruptcies or sell-off when Apple pulled plug on the suppliers.

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trm1945   2/21/2013 5:09:53 PM
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Aaaaarrrrrgggg. Get a life! I bought my first Mac in 1984 and have kept up ever since. What we have all seen is two things: Change and lumpy innovation are the norm and yet every "new" feature or CPU or whatever is treated like Custer's Last Stand. There will be an A7 and an A8 and an A9 in one form or another. Try to imagine a weather forecaster with this limited view of the future: "There's a new cloud coming in and that should be it for today. Oh, wait! there's another one behind that one but it's a bit unclear at the moment if it's bigger or not. WOW! there's a third one. All hell's broken loose. Back to you, Bob."

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trm1945   2/21/2013 5:09:53 PM
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Aaaaarrrrrgggg. Get a life! I bought my first Mac in 1984 and have kept up ever since. What we have all seen is two things: Change and lumpy innovation are the norm and yet every "new" feature or CPU or whatever is treated like Custer's Last Stand. There will be an A7 and an A8 and an A9 in one form or another. Try to imagine a weather forecaster with this limited view of the future: "There's a new cloud coming in and that should be it for today. Oh, wait! there's another one behind that one but it's a bit unclear at the moment if it's bigger or not. WOW! there's a third one. All hell's broken loose. Back to you, Bob."

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ChipConnoisseur   2/21/2013 6:33:08 PM
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Switching iOS to Intel is the dumbest proposal I've ever heard. Apple would first switch Macs to their own ARM chips before they switch iOS to Intel. Why the hell would they ever want to do that, even if you discard all the trouble it could cause for the apps? It's not like iOS apps or the OS itself NEEDS Core chips to work well. iOS is not Windows.

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ChipConnoisseur   2/21/2013 6:33:08 PM
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Switching iOS to Intel is the dumbest proposal I've ever heard. Apple would first switch Macs to their own ARM chips before they switch iOS to Intel. Why the hell would they ever want to do that, even if you discard all the trouble it could cause for the apps? It's not like iOS apps or the OS itself NEEDS Core chips to work well. iOS is not Windows.

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hazydave   2/21/2013 7:20:19 PM
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The GPUs are PowerVR cores, same basic thing so many other mobile devices use. They're certainly autorouted. It's just Apple's "Swift" processor core that's different. They did spend all this money, acquiring both PA Semiconductor and Intrinsity... I don't believe that's any kind of "stop gap" measure. Apple was shopping for a non-Samsung fab. Intel's already said they see fab work as a growing thing. No shock if they talked. Another rumor suggested Apple had offered TSMC a billion-dollar bounty for all of their 28nm output, but were turned down. Doesn't mean they have any interest in another company's products, they just want to get their stuff made.

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hazydave   2/21/2013 7:20:19 PM
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The GPUs are PowerVR cores, same basic thing so many other mobile devices use. They're certainly autorouted. It's just Apple's "Swift" processor core that's different. They did spend all this money, acquiring both PA Semiconductor and Intrinsity... I don't believe that's any kind of "stop gap" measure. Apple was shopping for a non-Samsung fab. Intel's already said they see fab work as a growing thing. No shock if they talked. Another rumor suggested Apple had offered TSMC a billion-dollar bounty for all of their 28nm output, but were turned down. Doesn't mean they have any interest in another company's products, they just want to get their stuff made.

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